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Old 09-05-2020, 11:20 AM
 
Location: My House
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All, we seem to need a coronavirus thread. We also need to keep the political mudslinging out of it.

The rules (there aren’t many):

1. Local issues only. If a US issue affects us locally, it is allowed.
2. No political namecalling. No Drumpf, no Private Bone Spurs, No Sleepy Joe
3. Keep it nonpartisan.
4. Be respectful of each OTHER. A pandemic is not the occasion for attacking your neighbors.
5. REPORT POSTS, DO NOT QUOTE THEM.

Finally...discuss this stuff calmly. If you think the new Wegman’s might be the epicenter of infections in Cary, you can say so. If you disagree, you can say so. We won’t all agree.

I know we can do this team.

Anndddd. BREAK!
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Old 09-05-2020, 12:45 PM
 
Location: 2*** Chelmsford Ct, Cary NC
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I hope at some point we can get a full accounting as to why were not allowed to progress to phase 3 in a timely manner and why data is being edited after the fact. I would like a full nonpartisan independent examination of everything that took place.
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Old 09-05-2020, 05:48 PM
 
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@Redzin should this be the Covid thread or is this just a sticky'd rules thread?
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Old 09-05-2020, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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I want to start a new COVID thread!1!!!!

to answer one ? on why we're still on NY/NJ quarantine list:

"10 per 100K" positive.

At 10.5MM population in NC, that's any 7 day average above 1,050 cases.
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Old 09-05-2020, 05:58 PM
 
Location: 2*** Chelmsford Ct, Cary NC
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@Redzin should this be the Covid thread or is this just a sticky'd rules thread?
This is the Covid thread.
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Old 09-05-2020, 07:55 PM
 
Location: 2*** Chelmsford Ct, Cary NC
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New research from the University of Oxford’s Center for Evidence-Based Medicine and the University of the West of England has found that the swab-based technique used for most COVID-19 testing is at risk of returning "false positives" since copies of the virus's RNA detected by the tests might simply be dead, inactive material from a weeks-old infection. Although patients infected with COVID-19 are typically only infectious for a week or less, tests can be triggered by virus genetic material left over from a weeks-old infection.

"Dead" Virus Cells Frequently Trigger "False Positives"
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Old 09-05-2020, 08:27 PM
 
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This is the Covid thread.
Yes, specifically related to the Raleigh-Durham-Cary-Chapel Hill area.
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Old 09-05-2020, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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I want to start a new COVID thread!1!!!!

to answer one ? on why we're still on NY/NJ quarantine list:

"10 per 100K" positive.

At 10.5MM population in NC, that's any 7 day average above 1,050 cases.
Yes, in order for NC (or any state) to come off the list, we need to meet both criteria
1. less than 10% positivity test rate
2. less than 10 per 100K daily positive average over a 7-day period

NC is good on #1 but not on #2.

The NY/NJ/CT quarantine state list updates every Tuesday.
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Old 09-06-2020, 07:19 AM
 
Location: 2*** Chelmsford Ct, Cary NC
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Yes, specifically related to the Raleigh-Durham-Cary-Chapel Hill area.
If a US issue affects us locally, it is allowed according to the Administrator.
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Old 09-06-2020, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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New research from the University of Oxford’s Center for Evidence-Based Medicine and the University of the West of England has found that the swab-based technique used for most COVID-19 testing is at risk of returning "false positives" since copies of the virus's RNA detected by the tests might simply be dead, inactive material from a weeks-old infection. Although patients infected with COVID-19 are typically only infectious for a week or less, tests can be triggered by virus genetic material left over from a weeks-old infection.

"Dead" Virus Cells Frequently Trigger "False Positives"
While the research hasn't been peer-reviewed yet, the above is a good summary of what the researchers said.

personally, I am not a big fan of relying on sub-articles (ie, MyKindaNews takes a story headline and makes it their own), so I went to the Spectator which is the source of this story.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...in-stable-why-

it appears there could be fundamental issues with how the testing is going, to the point that reassessment of test processing should be ongoing.

If the sensitivity is just "yes, we found the existence of the Covid virus in the sample therefore you HAVE it", after they have run through many cycles (multipliers it seems)... and they can't say with reasonable accuracy either live virus/dead virus, nor the viral load .... that's an issue, isn't it?

In my typical layman's assessment, it seems it would be akin to blood testing everyone after an NC State football game and noting only positive/negative for alcohol whether it was 1 Bloody Mary 5 hours before or a knee-walking drunk.

Surely they have some way of distinguishing between an active communicable virus load and the mere existence of virus particles?
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