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Old 09-22-2023, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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For those that live in Cary, do these elections for town council make a difference? Looks like the mayor is running unopposed. Hardly anyone will go to the polls prolly

Anyone know who you're voting for or who you like? These District D candidates have their dumb signs all over the place - do we really want 4 of your signs at every single intersection in Cary and along every median?

A big campaign these town council members are running with is their support and change for the Wake Co school system. I know a few of these people running actually have their kids at Cary Academy! Nothing wrong with that, but what do you know about Wake Co schools?


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Old 09-22-2023, 11:27 AM
 
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It's a town council election - so yeah it makes a difference if you care about what happens in the town.

Many people have been unhappy with the school system over the past several years (covid made it so people actually started paying attention), and changed to private school. They have just as much of a right to complain as anyone. Actually anyone has the right to complain because we all pay Wake County taxes.

That being said, I'm not sure how much if at all the Cary town council influences the school system. It's a weird topic to run on, but probably a popular one especially in District D.
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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It's a town council election - so yeah it makes a difference if you care about what happens in the town.

Many people have been unhappy with the school system over the past several years (covid made it so people actually started paying attention), and changed to private school. They have just as much of a right to complain as anyone. Actually anyone has the right to complain because we all pay Wake County taxes.

That being said, I'm not sure how much if at all the Cary town council influences the school system. It's a weird topic to run on, but probably a popular one especially in District D.
People always run on it , they’ve done it in Morrisville too. It capitalizes on most people’s complete lack of understanding of how schools work. Though at least some of the lobbying that Morrisville has done did work somewhat as they got the High School with Wake Tech eventually.
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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The town can (and has) helped with securing sites for new schools and developing partnerships like at the Mills Park site with schools and recreation, but as far as operation of the schools, the town has zilch to do with that.
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Old 09-23-2023, 08:42 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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The town can (and has) helped with securing sites for new schools and developing partnerships like at the Mills Park site with schools and recreation, but as far as operation of the schools, the town has zilch to do with that.
Yes and somebody can tell me what impact ToC has on WCPSS. ToC continues to approve new subdivisions/apartment complexes with no consideration of how these new developments affect school overcrowding and the constant redistricting.
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Old 09-23-2023, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Yes and somebody can tell me what impact ToC has on WCPSS. ToC continues to approve new subdivisions/apartment complexes with no consideration of how these new developments affect school overcrowding and the constant redistricting.

What is TOC's alternative to approval?

NCGA has the towns on a leash, a tight leash. If the developer meets applicable requirements, the Town can hardly refuse to approve. They may have leverage to squeeze stipulations out of builders, but approval is pretty much assured.

Heck, the new budget includes language to prevent towns from taxing or prohibiting plastic grocery bags.
Micro-management at a granular level.
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Old 09-23-2023, 09:09 AM
 
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It’s not difficult for the school system to predict growth in this area. Find large areas of open land, say hmmm I think we may need a school there, done.

The problem is the rush of families that are moving into these areas. Typically there will be a rush that overcrowds a school immediately after it opens, and then years later these kids age out and the school is no longer overcrowded. The Davis Drive schools and Green Hope schools are a good example of this. Yes people move out and additional kids move in, but it’s nothing like the rush of families that move into the new construction.

It’s nobody’s fault really - you can’t build additional schools for the initial rush, as those schools will then be underutilized in the future. You also can’t tell landowners they can’t develop their land because there aren’t enough school seats. It’s just one of those things you deal with in high growth areas. That’s why so many trailers are used.

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Old 09-23-2023, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Yep, Mike is correct as usual. The town's hands are tied by the state legislature, more so every year. Impact fees for development, gone. Watershed protections that went above state standards, gone.

They legally can not consider the impact on schools in their decisions.
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Old 09-23-2023, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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Wake County schools have behind since I can remember, in like 1980. Eventually maybe they will figure out that people want to move to the area, LOL.
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Old 10-18-2023, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Looks like a runoff election on Nov 7th (and early voting) for District D town council between 2 candidates. Guess we'll have to put up with their dumb signs all over the ground for a bit longer.
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