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Old 08-16-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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We've had a home in escrow since the first of the year (Don't even ask!) and it had almost 30K of pest work done on it. Closing scheduled for this Friday and the mortgage underwriter is now questioning whether the home has been raised off the ground!

Original pictures make the home look.....well, old. After rehab new paint, new deck make the home look.....well, new. MU wants assurance that this is the same house!

Are you freaking kidding me?
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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We've had a home in escrow since the first of the year (Don't even ask!) and it had almost 30K of pest work done on it. Closing scheduled for this Friday and the mortgage underwriter is now questioning whether the home has been raised off the ground!

Original pictures make the home look.....well, old. After rehab new paint, new deck make the home look.....well, new. MU wants assurance that this is the same house!

Are you freaking kidding me?

I have just one word for underwriters.

Tazers.
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: DFW
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You should be glad that underwriters are doing their jobs and actually looking at the appraisals.
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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You should be glad that underwriters are doing their jobs and actually looking at the appraisals.

You have no idea what you are saying. They have gone mad. Seriously...

I just closed a transaction on an FHA rehab loan where the buyer was gutting the kitchen as part of the loan. There was an old water stain, totally dry, under the kitchen sink that the underwriter insisted be repaired prior to close of escrow, even though it was coming out per the contractor's quote. That isn't someone doing their job, that is sheer stupidity.
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Just south of Denver since 1989
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Yup they are so afraid of their jobs they ask for the dumbest things or make you redo the contract for no real reason.

I have had them ask for proof he doesn't pay child support. Hello? You have two years of tax returns and 3 months of banks statements.

I have had them ask us to redo the contract to be outside the 90 day ownership window, even though we would close outside of that window.

I have had them ask for a statement we would not buy a vehicle within 6 months of buying a house.
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I didn't realize when I first posted that this was the realtor category. I appreciate the need to vent with colleagues and I am sure your job is frustrating also.

I can't speak to every instance you all have mentioned, but remember you haven't walked a mile in the underwriters' shoes either. The amount of rule changes and regulating bodies seem to be growing at exponential rates and trying to figure out how all the laws work together (one law seems to contradict another, e.g.) is quite the challenge.

I am not an underwriter but I do some compliance research and QC.
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Debsi, you sure you aren't an underwriter? They have gone mad, and I don't need to walk a mile in their shoes to know it. They are failing. The entire mortgage industry is failing for that matter, which is why government needs to back off. Every time they get involved it goes to hell in a hand basket.
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Debsi, you sure you aren't an underwriter? They have gone mad, and I don't need to walk a mile in their shoes to know it. They are failing. The entire mortgage industry is failing for that matter, which is why government needs to back off. Every time they get involved it goes to hell in a hand basket.
Yeah, I'm sure! I too wish the government would back off. I'm working a lot of Saturdays lately learning new regs. I don't want to be an underwriter ever, that's possibly an even more thankless job than Quality Control. I remember reading a lot of complaint threads about what underwriters ask for way BEFORE the mortgage crash.
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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the mortgage underwriter is now questioning whether the home has been raised off the ground!
Oh yeah I forgot. We DID raise the house, but we put it back where we found it. You can have your ruby slippers back.
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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I didn't realize when I first posted that this was the realtor category. I appreciate the need to vent with colleagues and I am sure your job is frustrating also.

I can't speak to every instance you all have mentioned, but remember you haven't walked a mile in the underwriters' shoes either. The amount of rule changes and regulating bodies seem to be growing at exponential rates and trying to figure out how all the laws work together (one law seems to contradict another, e.g.) is quite the challenge.

I am not an underwriter but I do some compliance research and QC.

It has nothing to do with rule changes. It has to do with being fined. Underwriters are faced with stiff fines by some lenders if the loans go bad within a certain time frame. As such, they have all descended into madness.
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