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Old 11-16-2012, 09:30 AM
 
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I'm having an issue with the HOA and the bylaws. It is stated in the by laws that the HOA covers all pipes within the walls. In one of my walls the pipe has a valve that controls the shut off to the shower. There is no telling when this was done but some of the units have these valves and some dont. The HOA stated to me that they are not responsible for the valve but no where in the by laws does it state this. Only reason I brought this up is because the plumber saw the valve and told me it could break at anytime.
I'm just nervous if the valve pops off and floods my unit and downstairs. Who is responsible??

Thanks in advance

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Old 11-16-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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It sounds to me like the valve is your responsibly as it is not "inside the wall." If it were to fail you would most likely need to make a claim on your home owners insurance for any damage. That's just a guess and I wouldn't just take anyone's advise on a message board over something like this. You should talk to a lawyer. Although I would suggest you just replace the valve and give yourself some piece of mind.

Btw...bylaws is one word not two.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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It sounds to me like the valve is your responsibly as it is not "inside the wall." If it were to fail you would most likely need to make a claim on your home owners insurance for any damage. That's just a guess and I wouldn't just take anyone's advise on a message board over something like this. You should talk to a lawyer. Although I would suggest you just replace the valve and give yourself some piece of mind.
They valve is inside the wall its connected to the pipes in the "walls".
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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Ask the HOA again for clarification.. but it sounds like you should have your plumber replace the valve. Can't be that expensive and alot cheaper and more effective than getting a lawyer involved as someone else suggested.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:47 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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They valve is inside the wall its connected to the pipes in the "walls".
"It is stated in the by laws that the HOA covers all pipes within the walls." The HOA's By-Laws [apparently] does not mention (cover) 'valves'. Therefore, 'valves' can be considered to be exclusive of the HOA's responsibility.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'd bet most of us have in-wall shut-off valves to the shower, usually with an access panel of some sort.
It's more convenient to be able to isolate if change or repair is necessary.
Why does this particular one worry you?
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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They valve is inside the wall its connected to the pipes in the "walls".
You mean there's no panels you can access to get to the valve? Usually what they mean by "walls" is those that separate you from your connecting condos and the outside world.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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I'd bet most of us have in-wall shut-off valves to the shower, usually with an access panel of some sort.


My last two new homes with a total of 5 showers had no such thing. I do not remember such in any other home I owned.

One thing all should learn is where the main water shutoff valve is.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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I'm having an issue with the HOA and the bylaws. It is stated in the by laws that the HOA covers all pipes within the walls. In one of my walls the pipe has a valve that controls the shut off to the shower. There is no telling when this was done but some of the units have these valves and some dont. The HOA stated to me that they are not responsible for the valve but no where in the by laws does it state this. Only reason I brought this up is because the plumber saw the valve and told me it could break at anytime.
I'm just nervous if the valve pops off and floods my unit and downstairs. Who is responsible??

Thanks in advance
I have lived in several condo associations (apartment and townhouse style). Generally the association is responsible for the piping, electrical, etc. that gets "whatever" (let us say water) to your unit. Once inside your unit, you are responsible.

Usually who is responsible for what will be in the Convenants (Deed Restrictions), not in the Bylaws.

Hope this helps.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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This is probably a situation where local and states laws make a difference. In CA, condo owners own their unit to the inside surface of the walls that define the outermost portion of the unit. The condo association owns everything else. If the valve is on an interior wall, it would be the owners responsibility in CA.
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