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Old 06-10-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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Thanks for replies. I found a house that was initially built in 1942 with recent renovation by flipper. He says

"The entire property was renovated from the studs out. The only items retained from the original home are the structure itself.

The roof, electrical wiring and panel were all replaced by the previous owner within the last 5 years.

Gorgeous kitchen with modern cabinets, upgraded counter tops, & back splash. Kitchen also features an island and all stainless steel appliances, including a gas cook top. Option to dine at the island or in the connecting dining area. Gorgeous custom tile work in both bathrooms!"

What are the questions reveal any hidden issues?

What are the red flags to look here?

Thanks for your guidance .

Look at the quality of the craftsmanship. If they've remodeled everything, then there should be lots of examples of their work to see.

Bad flip workmanship isn't that hard to spot. You'll see counters and tile work without the right kind of edge finish. The wrong kind of moldings. Bad tape and texture in the walls and ceiling with seams that show. Cheap cabinets that don't really fit right.

If that all looks good, it will hopefully be your inspector's job to inspect the crawlspaces and look for the clues that are not visible to the eye.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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If the previous sale occurred less than 2 years ago I wouldn't touch it, especially if it was less than a year or six months ago. Let the flippers lose their shirts. I worked as a tradesman for awhile and have seen what the flippers put into those houses: the bare minimum, and really just lipstick on a pig. They'll do a nice job with paint, hardwood flooring and tile in the bathrooms......but you may or may not have insulation in the walls, they old wiring, plumbing and ductwork is still going to be ratty, and even things like structural issues (like a cracked foundation for example) are more likely to be smoothed over rather than truly addressed.

The flaw in this argument is that if the home was NOT flipped, you're still going to find no insulation in the walls, they old wiring, plumbing and ductwork is still going to be ratty, and even things like structural issues (like a cracked foundation for example).

The non-flipped house is no more likely to have fixed those issues than the flipped house. In fact, if people have been living there a long time with it as-is, it's actually more likely they haven't. Just sayin.... the house needs to be looked at closely whether it's been flipped or not. Lipstick doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad pig.
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Old 06-12-2019, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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The entire property was renovated from the studs out because it is far cheaper to replace everything with chintzy materials than refresh the better quality build, plus the new stuff is great for coviering up the termite damage and twisting studs. So, we cheapened up the house for you to make it look better for a short time. The only items retained from the original home are the structure itself. We left you with nothing but the cheapest low quality everywhere, No need to worry about one part of the house making other parts look bad when it does not decay as quickly. You remember how much you loved K-mart as a kid don't you? All those wonderful low low prices and blue light specials? Well this is the house to bring you right back to your childhood.

The roof, electrical wiring and panel were all replaced by the previous owner within the last 5 years. He did it himself. With help from his brother Billy Bob. They are semi-professionals because they watch HGTV regularly. Billy bob also worked for his neighbor one summer helping build pig sties, so he really knows carpentry. Oh and there is no warranty on these items but that does not matter because the quality jumps right out at you, just look at those beautiful black decorations inside the electrical panel. It is the little details like electrical panel decorations that just screams quality donchathink? Also do not worry about whether or not he got a permit and inspections. It does not matter. Look how pretty the shiny doorknob looks! I bet no other house in the neighborhood has a doorknob that is that shiny.

Gorgeous kitchen with the cheapest laminated press-board modern cabinets,and we upgraded to the cheapest available counter tops & back splash to ensure they decay equally quickly with the rest of the house. Uneven decay is what makes a house look bad. If one part fails to decay as quickly, it makes all the rest look decrepit.

We did manage to get a three week warranty on the counters! That has expired now, but it shows that the manufacturer really stands behind their product. We got such a great dal ont he appliances at the garage sale down the street, we were able to pass the savings on to you after a tiny mark up. They look brand new don't they?

Kitchen also features an island and all stainless steel appliances, including a gas cook top which when combined in this way looks just like a kitchen at McDonalds or a Pizzarria, so your teens will feel right at home when the get a fast food job. Option to dine at the island or in the connecting dining area as long as you do not lean on the island or load it up with more than 18 pounds of dishes and food. Gorgeous custom tile work in both bathrooms! Guaranteed to last at least 18 months before the cheap tile begins to crack and individual tiles pop out.

In fact, Billy's flipper house specials guarantees the every item in the house for life (ours not yours). Ignore that moving van in front of our office, just sign the agreement and hand us your loan money, we really need to get going now.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:37 PM
 
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The flaw in this argument is that if the home was NOT flipped, you're still going to find no insulation in the walls, they old wiring, plumbing and ductwork is still going to be ratty, and even things like structural issues (like a cracked foundation for example).

The non-flipped house is no more likely to have fixed those issues than the flipped house. In fact, if people have been living there a long time with it as-is, it's actually more likely they haven't. Just sayin.... the house needs to be looked at closely whether it's been flipped or not. Lipstick doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad pig.
But at least the non-flipped house will be significantly cheaper.
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Old 06-15-2019, 11:15 PM
 
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It can go either way. As some people mentioned when your in the starter home or even midrange of some markets, there is plenty of DIY work on long owned homes that's worse then flipped houses. Also when looking at starter homes your not likely to see much better the homedepot materials anyways. I mean even some new house's have pretty cheap workmanship.
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