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Old 08-04-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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People get so wound up over what I consider the silliest things nowadays. If you don't want it there, then just toss it or put it for free in the front yard or post on Facebook that something is free. Getting bent out of shape over little things is not good for your heart.
If there's enough junk that you need a dumpster, it's not a "little thing".

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When we purchased our home in 2016, we drove by the home the night before close.
I did the same, saw the house wasn't empty, and called my agent. Seems the sellers didn't read the contract and thought they had 30 days to empty the house. They were still moving stuff out during the closing, but they got it done. The house was as clean as a whistle, though.

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If the contract does not specify how the property is to be left, that is the stupidity of the buyer.
It's also the fault of the agent for not ensuring that language is in the contract.
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Old 08-04-2021, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania/Maine
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It's only a trend and only common because of stupid buyers.

When you (addressed to buyers, not you personally) do your final walkthrough on the morning of the close and there's a bunch of crap still in the house YOU DON'T CLOSE.

You'd be amazed how fast people can get a house cleaned out if that's what it takes to get their money.

I bought a house years ago, did my walkthrough on the morning of the close and there was a junk car sitting in the yard. I called the seller's agent, reported the car and said no close till it was gone. She squealed like a stuck pig but an hour later she called to tell me the car was removed. I went back to the house and, guess what, the seller pushed the car out on to the street right in front of the house. I called the agent, reported that and said no close until it was gone or it would have been my problem after the close. More squealing. An hour later the car was gone and I closed on the house.

If a buyer doesn't stand up for himself he deserves what he gets.
Love your persistence. I'm impressed.
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:10 AM
 
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[quote=Ohiogirl81;61600569]If there's enough junk that you need a dumpster, it's not a "little thing".


oh, for gawd's sake, where did you get that idea? I wasn't talking about " the amounts of junk that would fill a dumpster".
I was referring to people who would get bent out of shape if a chair got left behind or a couple extra pieces of tile that matches the floor.

A little thing for me is different than what others consider a little thing.

Once again....put it in the contract if crap like that bothers you so much...as I said before...just write this in your contracts:


"The Seller shall deliver possession of the Premises in broom clean condition, free of all debris, personal effects and other tangible items which are not sold to Buyer or left on the Premises with Buyer’s prior written permission."

Don't sign at closing if its not followed.
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:46 AM
 
Location: OC
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As I said...."broom clean is subjective".....if you want certain things gone then put it in the contract. For those people who are super clean freaks or who are bothered by having a small amount of things left behind should have the following put in their contracts:
"the Seller shall deliver possession of the Premises in broom clean condition, free of all debris, personal effects and other tangible items which are not sold to Buyer or left on the Premises with Buyer’s prior written permission."


What you think is clean is different from what others would think is clean. I can't believe I have to point that out.
That little statement in the contract helps with any interpretation on what is expected.
Say what? No, clean is clean. Am I going to blow up if some tiles and 1 lawn chair is left? Of course not, but have some pride and decency and actually clean up and take your stuff with you. I didn't ask for your furniture, but as you would probably say "you didn't not ask for my furniture so I left these lawn chairs as a housewarming gift."

Yes, I see why contracts are necessary.
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Old 08-04-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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No you should not have to worry about disposing of the former owners stuff . Broom clean and nothing left behind and that is what I will do when i sell this house and go to my retirement home . End of story .
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Old 08-04-2021, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I have never seen this as a problem. We have moved into homes that had stuff left behind, and we sold homes with stuff left behind. None of our buyers complained and we have never complained.


None of those things were huge problems like piles of junk, or old cars or things like that. If that was on the property when the offer was made, then that should specifically be put in the contract as something you want taken out. Saying "broom clean" can be subjective in a contract.


People get so wound up over what I consider the silliest things nowadays. If you don't want it there, then just toss it or put it for free in the front yard or post on Facebook that something is free. Getting bent out of shape over little things is not good for your heart.
people get so narrow minded that they can't imagine anyone is different from themselves. Personally, I can't haul around heavy items, so even if I wanted to give things away for free, i'd have to pay someone to haul it out to the front yard. Why should I have to spend money to get rid of things that a seller was contractually obligated to remove? Never mind the time and effort on top of that. Being judgmental of others who happen to be different from you is not good for your soul.
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Old 08-04-2021, 02:26 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Leasebacks are stupid decisions of buyers.

The seller stays in the house that the buyer now owns. The seller has hundreds of thousands of dollars of the buyer's money with which he is paying rent. When he's gone and leaves the house in poor condition the buyer has to chase him down and litigate while spending more of his own money to clean and repair.

No thanks. I buy seller's house, seller GTFO by close of escrow.
I do quite a few leasebacks because of military town. O just get security dep, and rent
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Old 08-04-2021, 03:21 PM
 
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I always leave paint, tile, pergo that’s left over so the new owners have it for repairs. But I always tell them ahead of time. Once when buying a house we did the walk through and they had turned off all the utilities. We couldn’t tell if anything worked. We refused to close until everything was on. The sellers were furious as they were renting and couldn’t pay for their new place and it delayed the closing by a day. No clue why they did something so stupid. We always just coordinate with buyers so they don’t get turned off.
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Old 08-04-2021, 08:01 PM
 
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i did apartment maintance for awhile, you be amaze at what people leave. the apartment complex, 700 units, had its own goodwill store, need a bed or dresser, even flat screen, you could buy from the salavge store, cheap.


couches, bed, lots of pots and pans, micro waves. we would fight over who got to de trash the apartment, just to see what we could find.
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:36 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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i did apartment maintance for awhile, you be amaze at what people leave. the apartment complex, 700 units, had its own goodwill store, need a bed or dresser, even flat screen, you could buy from the salavge store, cheap.


couches, bed, lots of pots and pans, micro waves. we would fight over who got to de trash the apartment, just to see what we could find.

yeah my brother had that clean out job for a while and he called me one day and told me that some girl was dumping bags and bags of things out in the dumpster . i got clothes , jewelry and shoes out of that dumpster and kept some and gave some away . the things that girl threw away, a nice camera too with telephoto lens it was awesome . I still have the jewelry and the camera . So yeah i can understand why you all would fight over clean outs .LOL .
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