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Old 10-28-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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This. It is an seller financed installment loan drawn up by your attorney. They would claim real estate tax deductions as well as interest paid on the loan. You would give them a 1098 int. form each year with the total interest paid and you would claim the payments made as income to pay taxes on. Doing it this way, I believe you lose the 500,000 gain exclusion, though.
No, a Seller-financed sale (either Land Contract or purchase money mortgage) is still considered a sale, even if the Deed isn't delivered until it's paid off (as with a Land Contract).
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Old 10-28-2021, 12:12 PM
 
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No, a Seller-financed sale (either Land Contract or purchase money mortgage) is still considered a sale, even if the Deed isn't delivered until it's paid off (as with a Land Contract).
Thank you for clarifying, I was not sure about the exclusion for that.
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Old 10-28-2021, 12:16 PM
 
Location: plano
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OP if you still have the mortgage on the old house, know it will reduce the amount you can borrow for this new home, I assume you already know and your situation is workable with two mortgages. By renting it out you can count the rent as income but the ratio of debt service to income will make it likely the rent wont offset all of the mortgage payment on the old house.

lots of big other issues but most have been mentioned so wont repeat them
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Old 10-28-2021, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Spring
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OP if you still have the mortgage on the old house, know it will reduce the amount you can borrow for this new home, I assume you already know and your situation is workable with two mortgages. By renting it out you can count the rent as income but the ratio of debt service to income will make it likely the rent wont offset all of the mortgage payment on the old house.

lots of big other issues but most have been mentioned so wont repeat them
Yea, that's already been taken care of.
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Old 10-28-2021, 12:58 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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You can't have a lease legally rentling it out and Also tell your insurance company it isn't a rental property. Insurance fraud.
Without getting into the family stuff - this^^^^^^.

Just tell the insurance company it's a rental home now. We did it with our townhouse in NC. It wasn't that bad.

Insurance fraud is no bueno.
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Old 10-28-2021, 01:00 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Thanks all.

Got it, clear on the potential fraud dilemma. In order to avoid all that it shall be match everywhere (rental property with rental hazard policy, and of course rental on tax returns). Last thing I need is fraudulent charges.

I was also googling some tax differences in second home vs rental and seems the rental would benefit our scenario.

To the comments about selling out right, I agree. The idea is this is done in a manner that protects both sides. Ultimately if they aren't able to keep up with the payment they will be removed and home will be sold for market value. They can also sell their home and simply pay off this one. We have options and this arrangement isn't contingent on fragile strings.

Much apprecaited.
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I would commend you for being open to helping your in-laws.

And, I think you are smart to want to do it "right."
Also, both of these things.
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Old 11-03-2021, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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I think for color only...

We can sell the house and let it be history. My in-laws live 5 houses down in their current home.
When they heard we were selling ours, they said no we'll keep it. Unfortunately they have sub par credit (600-620) to qualify for a decent loan. Secondly they aren't selling their current home, so definitely not enough credit to carry two loans. Lastly they are not interested in starting a 15/30 year loan off from scratch. Frankly I doubt they will even live alone for more than 10 years. (will probably end up with one of their kids, hell even in our new house).
We've discussed our concerns and how it would play it in a financial hardship situation and all sides have come to an agreement that we are all happy with. What will probably happen is they will sell their current home and use the proceeds to pay off this home, and once done we transfer ownership and done.
Why would they want to keep your old house? And not even live in it because they want to keep their current house?

This whole idea makes no sense.

What do they plan to do with 2 homes on the same street? Which they cannot afford. Which they are expecting you to finance (keep the mortgage)

Do you realize how crazy this sounds?
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Old 11-04-2021, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Spring
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Why would they want to keep your old house? And not even live in it because they want to keep their current house?

This whole idea makes no sense.

What do they plan to do with 2 homes on the same street? Which they cannot afford. Which they are expecting you to finance (keep the mortgage)

Do you realize how crazy this sounds?
They want to take over our home given it has a lot of updates and a pool. Much more enjoyable backyard.
Their current home will be sold to their youngest daughter's/fiancé. They are looking for their first home.
So they won't be paying for 2. If the daughter/fiancé decide to move, in-laws will either move back or sell their home and continue living in our current home.

Not sure where you got that they would be paying for both. I'm not that crazy
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Old 11-05-2021, 04:48 AM
 
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If in-laws are selling their home to the daughter and her fiancé, why would they move back if she decides to move on? Why wouldn't daughter and fiancé just sell the house themselves?

Or are daughter and fiancé moving in under the same deal?
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