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Old 05-24-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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So are you saying that Section 8 ONLY attracts a specific kind of person? One that is a degenerate and prone to destruction of property?

I can name homeowners that fit that same criteria. They're part of the reason why HoAs were created in the first place. Should we lump them into the same neighborhoods as the Section 8ers?

I respectfully disagree with your opinion.
It is not an opinion. It is a fact. Section 8 tenants do not have a bad rap because of their source of income. The program needs to be revamped.
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Old 05-24-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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I am comfortable with that type of discrimination.
Wow !! You would be fine with being penalized and paying lawyer fees in the tens of $$$ and/or possible jail time if caught doing so and convicted ?
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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Wow !! You would be fine with being penalized and paying lawyer fees in the tens of $$$ and/or possible jail time if caught doing so and convicted ?
No. All you have to do is require three times the rent.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Bowie, MD
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It is not an opinion. It is a fact. Section 8 tenants do not have a bad rap because of their source of income. The program needs to be revamped.
Then please clarify. If not their source of income, then what? Especially if your idea of weeding them out is to require 3x the monthly rent as deposit?
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Then please clarify. If not their source of income, then what? Especially if your idea of weeding them out is to require 3x the monthly rent as deposit?
Please read my previous posts.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:57 PM
 
Location: 3rd Rock fts
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No. All you have to do is require three times the rent.
LOL! People who can afford 3x the rent probably would cringe @ living in your neighborhood.

Did anyone hear about the proposed voucher checks for the so-called middle-class homeowners'? It's being said that keeping the well-to-do neighborhoods prosperous is of the utmost importance to ALL the residents of the USA.

The real question is: How to get the financially devious homeowner/glorified renter out of the country.

My apologies for flinging mud on the faces of homeowners who have/try to have skin-in-the-game in this pseudo-inflationary country of ours.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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I am in a similar situation, where my neighbor is a section 8 queen with, god knows how many, kids screaming ALL DAY and NIGHT until 2am watching loud movies on their huge flat screen TV, while I can't even afford having cable, let alone a TV. They put their music so loud during the day that they have to yell at each other to over-hear the loudness of the music. I can't even open my windows anymore due to loud impounding noise and incoherent screeching screaming voices like in jungle. I am hot and roasting in my house during summer since the nuisance is overwhelming. I can't believe how welfare in this country turned these people so proud and violent for being poor while fed by food stamps and welfare. Thanks to blind welfare system these people would never have to beg anyone for food or money in their lifetime. Certainly, they never have to beg for work. Oh, did I mention they all drive new expensive cars like Cadillac SUV, and Lexus that barely fit in their small garage. I am driving a Honda Civic. I almost wish I just get pregnant and get on welfare as soon as possible, so i can end my miserable life of paying mortgage, insurance and HOA fees on an underwater house while dealing with this over-privileged, ignorant, rude, disrespectful neighbor who doesn't even pay her utility bills on her own. I literally cried in bed thinking how smart they are gaming the welfare system, and how misfortune for me to have put 10 years of savings for a down payment and thinking I finally had a home of my own. It is UNJUST and UNFAIR. All these years of I worked hard breaking my arms and legs, the welfare system just encourages these people to have an exact same home as mine but they don't have to do anything other than just sit on their couch laughing and talking loud while they watch their favorite TV shows and movies and listening to rap music, the process which continues until midnight or later and sometimes 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning. Unlike them, I have to get up at 6:30 am for work. I cried and I cried for how cruel this was to me. My home was my pride and joy, and represented my years of hard work, but these people can just move in one day next to me and tell me to EAT their ****. I wish I could move out like some of you are suggesting, but I am underwater and already paid so much for my mortgage, literally 15 years of hard work, sweat and tears. I can't even get my down-payment of 60,000 back, not to mention I would owe money to the bank if I foreclosed. I am bitter. I can't even bring anyone home anymore, since I can't bare the site and shame in which my years of work yielded an equivalent of section 8 voucher could do. Is anyone listening from HUD?! When is it enough?! How much sacrifice do they want from me?! Do they want me to bleed for them?! I will probably bleed in the end and get shot by this neighbor in my neighborhood where my American Dream was ruined and smothered into ashes. How UNJUST and CRUEL!!!
Sounds like you need to send the keys to the mortgage holder, and call it a day. I had a tenant that moved into one of my rentals due to a similar situation. She let her house go.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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So are you saying that Section 8 ONLY attracts a specific kind of person? One that is a degenerate and prone to destruction of property?

I can name homeowners that fit that same criteria. They're part of the reason why HoAs were created in the first place. Should we lump them into the same neighborhoods as the Section 8ers?

I respectfully disagree with your opinion.
You can't be serious. The problem is not the section 8 renters. The problem is people like you and your family that are so short sighted and greedy that you are willing to rent to section 8 and destroy everyone else's home values. Put your money where your mouth is and move some of your wonderful section 8 renters into your neighborhood.
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Old 11-30-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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You can't be serious. The problem is not the section 8 renters. The problem is people like you and your family that are so short sighted and greedy that you are willing to rent to section 8 and destroy everyone else's home values. Put your money where your mouth is and move some of your wonderful section 8 renters into your neighborhood.
Huh?
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Old 12-02-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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The concept of this thread is way off base. Actually section 8 renters as a whole, are better renters in the lower price rental units than non section 8 renters. They do their best not to get in trouble that will cause them to lose their section 8 help. Just because it is now priced rental area, does not mean the renters are there on section 8 vouchers. Sometimes the person living in the home actually owns the home, but others in the neighborhood have a problem with them and just assume they are renters, and if lower priced rentals are section 8.

I went into the commercial/investment brokerage in 1972. I bought a lot of rentals for investors, and managed a lot of them. I was president of the county wide owners and managers association for 3 years. I have a good knowledge of this type of situation. A lot of owners like to rent to section 8 renters, because the authority overseeing section 8 in the area makes sure the renters do not do damage to the area, using the threat of withdrawing their section 8 if they do. The authority will pay to fix up damage renters do the the property, so they keep good control on the renters. In fact, some of the best renters, are section 8 renters. In most situations, the neighbors will never know if they really are section 8 renters or not. I know some management specialists, that only rent to section 8 renters, as their property suffers less damage, and less vacancy than when renting to the general public.

Does the OP know they are section 8 renters, or just because they are a problem assumes they are because they are not working well with the neighbors? I have found over the years, the worst renters, are not section 8, and were much bigger problems than section 8 renters ever will be.

Due to the limits of how much section 8 renters can pay for rentals, the OP has to be living in a lower income part of the city, and renters in general are not the perfect tenants. People are renting the homes, because they are cannot sell them. A few bad home owners, or a few bad non section 8 renters, can really run a neighborhood down fast.
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