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Old 11-19-2010, 08:51 AM
 
Location: a primitive state
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It's not about them being more evolved. It's about them having more to lose financially. They just live in misery because they're not willing to part with their creature comforts.
I don't think that's what the article said at all. It said that the poorest group of likely divorcees were the least able to cope with the loss of a second income, but were more likely to do so anyway.

Educated people with better incomes were less likely not from fear of loss, but because of better conflict resolution skills.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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I don't think that's what the article said at all. It said that the poorest group of likely divorcees were the least able to cope with the loss of a second income, but were more likely to do so anyway.
I wasn't discussing the article; I said what I think. People with nothing to lose are generally the biggest risk-takers. If your life sucks anyway, a little additional suffering isn't going to make it or break it.
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:25 AM
 
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I'm not even sure why I got married. It seems that it just targets us for increased taxation. I hear all this talk about all the benefits married people get, what are they exactly?

Some one was telling me he had a waitress complaining to him that she wanted to marry her boyfriend but couldn't because then his income would count towards there household and she'd lose all are benefits from the state.

Not to get to political here, but maybe unmarried couples that are stable are just making the financially prudent decision in the face of perverse incentives.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: maryland
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I think she was comparing family stability and saw that unmarried, two parent Swedish couples with children were less likely to split than married, two parent American couples with children.

Economic stability or education level may play a part in this, is what I think she's saying.

Americans may be falling rapidly in their socio-economic status compared to other countries, regardless of how subsidized their people are.

The problem is you can't use stats as proof when you don't tell us in what context they are used. I also am not sure i agree anyway since the divorece rate in Sweden is higher then America.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: maryland
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They sure do, but they have higher taxes.

i often wonder though if european countries have all the added taxes we have...such as sales tax...death taxes.....local taxes.....taxes to protect the watershed....property tax. I had an economics teacher in hs who said they didn't and that if you added those in our taxes were actually the same...though he might of been full of it as well.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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i often wonder though if european countries have all the added taxes we have...such as sales tax...death taxes.....local taxes.....taxes to protect the watershed....property tax. I had an economics teacher in hs who said they didn't and that if you added those in our taxes were actually the same...though he might of been full of it as well.
It might be a wash... Can't say I'm sure.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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The problem is you can't use stats as proof when you don't tell us in what context they are used. I also am not sure i agree anyway since the divorece rate in Sweden is higher then America.
"Then" America? I give up.
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: maryland
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"Then" America? I give up.

Oh hush...you know what i meant
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: middle of everywhere
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You see, Ellie, these unmarried couples in Sweden may very well be way more committed than married couples in the US. The reason many don't marry in the wealthier European countries is that women get better benefits as single mothers.
I did not know that. I heard about the lengthy maternity leave, but that was all. Funny how that can't happen here in this country. Instead of giving single and working moms better benefits, they would rather marry us off.

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Old 11-23-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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I did not know that. I heard about the lengthy maternity leave, but that was all. Funny how that can't happen here in this country. Instead of giving single and working moms better benefits, they would rather marry us off.

I don't get it either. And why should being married cut your maternity leave/benefits at all? Even the most ideal man doesn't have to physically and mentally recuperate from giving birth so why should it matter if the mother is married ? America is NOT about families as it pretends. Its about money and keeping the average family in as much debt as possible. That prospers the wealthy elite. Seems unrealistic to some but its true.

Back on topic how do you collect statistics on a segment of a population that has no formal records (married vs living together) if it is a survey participants can write whatever they like. I'm not buying this one. Its an apples to oranges comparison with too many vatriables anyway.
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