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A short while ago, I was discussing the following with Janet, a good lady friend. She is not the drinker type, but she is a very self-assured woman and has a solid sense of boundaries. We are strictly friends and have never been alone, and only hung out in groups.
We discussed what happens when a man and a woman are on a date (or just friends talking/hanging out), alcohol is consumed, and the man gets drunk but the woman doesn't. The man then gets touchy/kissy, while the woman is still sober enough both to refuse his advances and not to lose control herself.
Janet told me that if a woman lets the guy touch/caress/kiss her, it is because she likes him. Otherwise, she said, a woman can always - and will always be able to - say no if she is not into him.
This conversation reminded me of the comments from another lady friend. "Emma" said the same thing, but emphasized that a woman "allowing" a drunk or buzzed man to touch/kiss her always means she likes him, and she told me she always refused when she didn't like the guy she was with.
I asked both Janet and Emma what does it mean if in such scenarios, the woman doesn't necessarily respond (kiss back, touch back, etc) and rather just sits there passively 'accepting' his advances while doing and saying nothing to make him stop.
They both said it means the woman likes the man.
Women, do you agree with Janet and Emma? This assumes that men and women in such scenarios are both unmarried and have no BF/GF.
We discussed what happens when a man and a woman are on a date (or just friends talking/hanging out), alcohol is consumed, and the man gets drunk but the woman doesn't. The man then gets touchy/kissy, while the woman is still sober enough both to refuse his advances and not to lose control herself.
Janet told me that if a woman lets the guy touch/caress/kiss her, it is because she likes him. Otherwise, she said, a woman can always - and will always be able to - say no if she is not into him.
If I liked him, I'd let him know that, WHILE cheerfully but firmly putting my hand up to keep him from slobbering on me. I'd say, "Let's continue this when we're both sober."
Personally, I would hesitate to respond because I don't know if he really likes me, or if I am just there. Booze can make you want things you wouldn't want if you were sober.
A short while ago, I was discussing the following with Janet, a good lady friend. She is not the drinker type, but she is a very self-assured woman and has a solid sense of boundaries. We are strictly friends and have never been alone, and only hung out in groups.
We discussed what happens when a man and a woman are on a date (or just friends talking/hanging out), alcohol is consumed, and the man gets drunk but the woman doesn't. The man then gets touchy/kissy, while the woman is still sober enough both to refuse his advances and not to lose control herself.
Janet told me that if a woman lets the guy touch/caress/kiss her, it is because she likes him. Otherwise, she said, a woman can always - and will always be able to - say no if she is not into him.
This conversation reminded me of the comments from another lady friend. "Emma" said the same thing, but emphasized that a woman "allowing" a drunk or buzzed man to touch/kiss her always means she likes him, and she told me she always refused when she didn't like the guy she was with.
I asked both Janet and Emma what does it mean if in such scenarios, the woman doesn't necessarily respond (kiss back, touch back, etc) and rather just sits there passively 'accepting' his advances while doing and saying nothing to make him stop.
They both said it means the woman likes the man.
Women, do you agree with Janet and Emma? This assumes that men and women in such scenarios are both unmarried and have no BF/GF.
Yes, i think it means she likes him. Or at least she likes him touching her.
I don't agree. Some women don't know how to say "no" and, believe it or not, worry about offending if they do.
that's true to a degree, but I think they would gently try to focus the man's attentions else where, or get up and pretend they have to do something else... or stuff like that
I'd agree that for the most part the average woman would let only a dude she liked slobber and drunkenly paw at her. She wouldn't tolerate that from a guy she wasn't into.
Does "like" mean that she is attracted to him physically or has emotional feelings for him, at minimum, a crush?
For a woman to make out with or otherwise be intimate with a man (even if passively allowing it to happen but not really responding), she will likely have to be at least physically attracted to him. I assumed that was true for men too? Why would anyone make out with someone they have zero attraction to, either physical or emotional?
But whether or not she has feelings for him is another matter. There are women who enjoy casual sex with no strings attached so I would not assume that a make out session automatically means she has emotional feelings for him.
Does "like" mean that she is attracted to him physically or has emotional feelings for him, at minimum, a crush?
For a woman to make out with or otherwise be intimate with a man (even if passively allowing it to happen but not really responding), she will likely have to be at least physically attracted to him. I assumed that was true for men too? Why would anyone make out with someone they have zero attraction to, either physical or emotional?
But whether or not she has feelings for him is another matter. There are women who enjoy casual sex with no strings attached so I would not assume that a make out session automatically means she has emotional feelings for him.
Good question... Janet and Emma didn't clarify that. I assumed "liked" meant I guess either both... if it was the first or second date then I would imagine it meant she found him attractive, because how many feelings can be built up in such short a time?
But I guess also at least a level of comfort and affinity that could potentially become emotional feelings.
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