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Old 01-18-2015, 08:47 AM
 
Location: PANAMA
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I don't care about age...it's just a number. If you begin to scrutiny and judge people by their age...you are just throwing away good chances.

I've met 30 plus that are still at their twenties mentally: clubs, driniking, partying...etc. I've met 40 almost the same.

I'm 43 so I'm dating around my age, above and below. I've met 28 or 29 years old, very mature women. They party until 25 and want to settle down.

And since I want to have kids, at least one, with a 40 something you cannot achieve that.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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I don't care about age...it's just a number. If you begin to scrutiny and judge people by their age...you are just throwing away good chances.

I've met 30 plus that are still at their twenties mentally: clubs, driniking, partying...etc. I've met 40 almost the same.

I'm 43 so I'm dating around my age, above and below. I've met 28 or 29 years old, very mature women. They party until 25 and want to settle down.

And since I want to have kids, at least one, with a 40 something you cannot achieve that.
Actually you can as long as she is not into menopause. Even if a woman is young no guarantee she is fertile. No guarantee you are fertile either.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:23 PM
 
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if they go quite older i would imagine guys in his 30s is the limit
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Kingstowne, VA
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I've heard somewhere that women who are in their 20s stick with men in their 20s. The reason I ask this silly question is because I'm turning 30 in a few months, and I feel I've missed out on dating women in their 20s. Also I think that women in their 20s don't want to date a man who is 30 or older.
In my early 20s, my favorite relationships were with two men, one in his early 30s and the other in his late 30s. Not only are men more stable and more willing to settle down in their 30s, I think theyre also far more attractive physically and sexually, too, FAR more.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:46 PM
 
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Men in their thirties realize they can't get away with as much $$$$ as they did in their college years. It's as simple as that.
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Old 01-28-2015, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Vail, CO
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When I was dating at 30 I went out with 22-25 years all the time. It didn't seem to matter. I prefer dating people my age though.
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Old 01-28-2015, 12:34 AM
 
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I dated plenty of 20-somethings in my 30's. I'm still with one of them. There are probably some 20-something women who won't date guys in their 30's, but there are so many others who will that it doesn't matter. As with any other variables in dating, focus on the ones who are interested in what you have to offer, and ignore the ones who are looking for something else.
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Old 01-28-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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Actually you can as long as she is not into menopause. Even if a woman is young no guarantee she is fertile. No guarantee you are fertile either.
And there's also the big "A"...Adoption! Look at Angelina Jolie.
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Old 01-29-2015, 06:02 PM
 
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Actually you can as long as she is not into menopause. Even if a woman is young no guarantee she is fertile. No guarantee you are fertile either.

Maybe so, but that comes across as something a woman can just "flip a switch" and get pregnant. It's not. Only about 2/3s of pregnancies make it to full term worldwide.

You can make conjecture in regards to a younger woman's fertility or a guy shooting blanks, but those aren't givens. What is a given is that a 40-year old woman has a very slim chance of getting pregnant and carrying to full term.

There seems to be some mythical nonsense out there that just because 40+ Hollywood types spend tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on fertility treatments or implant a younger woman's donor eggs that just anyone can do that. That's NOT the case!




Age and Fertility Analysis and Statistics - SCCRM

Pregnancy over Age 35 and Related Risks

"A number of different problems characterize the ability to achieve pregnancy over 35. There is a noticeable decline in the fertility rate starting at age 35 to a level of about 10% per month. A woman seeking pregnancy over 35 should consult a fertility specialist after only 6 months of actively attempting to become pregnant. The pregnancy risk over 35 is higher as well as evidenced an increase in the miscarriage rate and the incidence of genetic abnormality in pregnancy. At 35, the miscarriage rate is 25% and the risk of Down syndrome becomes about 1/350. 35 is the age at which genetic testing in pregnancy is first recommended since the chance of picking up an abnormality is greater than the risk of the procedure used to find it."


Pregnancy over 40 and Related Risks

"There is a sharp decline in a woman’s ability to achieve pregnancy over age forty. The fertility rate per month is only about 5% and even with in Vitro Fertilization (IVF), the most successful infertility treatment available, the pregnancy rate is only about 10% per try. This is due to the greatly reduced number of normal eggs remaining in the ovaries of a woman over forty. Therefore, women who desire a pregnancy over 40 should seek help after only 3 months of trying to become pregnant. Estimates from embryo biopsy reveal that at least 90% of a woman’s eggs are genetically abnormal when a woman is over 40. This is explains the increased pregnancy risk over 40. The miscarriage rate is 33% at age 40. Genetically abnormal pregnancies are more common as well with an incidence of 1/38 at age 40. For this reason, there are many women over 40 who choose to use an egg donor program to become pregnant. Eggs from a woman in their early twenties are used along with their husbands sperm to create embryos that are much more likely to lead to successful pregnancy. Pregnancy rates of about 80% are common in most egg donation programs. This is the best way to increase the likelihood of pregnancy over 40. An additional benefit is that the pregnancies that result from these younger eggs also have the miscarriage and genetic abnormality rate of women in their twenties. Therefore, the risk of pregnancy over 40 is limited to those potential problems that could occur that have nothing to do with genetics. As women get older the risks of medical conditions complicating pregnancy increase. Complications of pregnancy that increase with age include elevated blood pressure, gestational diabetes, premature labor and bleeding disorders such as placental abruption."
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Old 01-29-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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Maybe so, but that comes across as something a woman can just "flip a switch" and get pregnant. It's not. Only about 2/3s of pregnancies make it to full term worldwide.

You can make conjecture in regards to a younger woman's fertility or a guy shooting blanks, but those aren't givens. What is a given is that a 40-year old woman has a very slim chance of getting pregnant and carrying to full term.

There seems to be some mythical nonsense out there that just because 40+ Hollywood types spend tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on fertility treatments or implant a younger woman's donor eggs that just anyone can do that. That's NOT the case!




Age and Fertility Analysis and Statistics - SCCRM

Pregnancy over Age 35 and Related Risks

"A number of different problems characterize the ability to achieve pregnancy over 35. There is a noticeable decline in the fertility rate starting at age 35 to a level of about 10% per month. A woman seeking pregnancy over 35 should consult a fertility specialist after only 6 months of actively attempting to become pregnant. The pregnancy risk over 35 is higher as well as evidenced an increase in the miscarriage rate and the incidence of genetic abnormality in pregnancy. At 35, the miscarriage rate is 25% and the risk of Down syndrome becomes about 1/350. 35 is the age at which genetic testing in pregnancy is first recommended since the chance of picking up an abnormality is greater than the risk of the procedure used to find it."


Pregnancy over 40 and Related Risks

"There is a sharp decline in a woman’s ability to achieve pregnancy over age forty. The fertility rate per month is only about 5% and even with in Vitro Fertilization (IVF), the most successful infertility treatment available, the pregnancy rate is only about 10% per try. This is due to the greatly reduced number of normal eggs remaining in the ovaries of a woman over forty. Therefore, women who desire a pregnancy over 40 should seek help after only 3 months of trying to become pregnant. Estimates from embryo biopsy reveal that at least 90% of a woman’s eggs are genetically abnormal when a woman is over 40. This is explains the increased pregnancy risk over 40. The miscarriage rate is 33% at age 40. Genetically abnormal pregnancies are more common as well with an incidence of 1/38 at age 40. For this reason, there are many women over 40 who choose to use an egg donor program to become pregnant. Eggs from a woman in their early twenties are used along with their husbands sperm to create embryos that are much more likely to lead to successful pregnancy. Pregnancy rates of about 80% are common in most egg donation programs. This is the best way to increase the likelihood of pregnancy over 40. An additional benefit is that the pregnancies that result from these younger eggs also have the miscarriage and genetic abnormality rate of women in their twenties. Therefore, the risk of pregnancy over 40 is limited to those potential problems that could occur that have nothing to do with genetics. As women get older the risks of medical conditions complicating pregnancy increase. Complications of pregnancy that increase with age include elevated blood pressure, gestational diabetes, premature labor and bleeding disorders such as placental abruption."
I never said that it wasn't riskier or harder just that it's possible. It's also possible that a man is infertile or a younger women is, then what? Should the person dump an infertile person because they just have to have a biological kid? If that is the case then they don't want a relationship just an egg or sperm donor and that is sad.

But you older men in your 40's keep deluding yourself that you can find a much younger woman and have a child. Then then you get older and still no kid (because smart women know when they are judged on this instead of who they are)maybe it will make sense. Or these men will end up alone because sorry to break your bubble but most older men aren't attractive to younger.

Here are studies that talk about increase risk for fathers. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566050/ Growing evidence shows that the offspring of older fathers have reduced fertility and an increased risk of birth defects, some cancers, and schizophrenia.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/44641.php Babies born to older men carry a higher risk of having genetic problems, says a study from the USA . A French study showed that male infertility shoots up after the age of 40. Not only does the lower quality of older men's sperm lower fertility, it also makes it more likely that babies with genetic abnormalities are born.
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