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I really resent this comment. I have NEVER treated women with anything but the utmost of respect. I have never advocated treating them like "garbage" because it supposedly works. I don't believe that it does.
I have been treated poorly in return by some women. As I see it, they think that they are the ones with the valuable goods to sell and can treat all men who don't have the price to pay, with contempt.
Women who are in the competition for men are attracted to men who have what they want and we all know that this is: looks, money and attributes that impress their girlfriends (and usually concern their parents). Nearly all nice, decent men are deficient in at least 1 of these things, and most likely all three. As a result, they are invisible.
Spot on!!!!
And the last part in bold leads to what they call involuntary celibacy. I believe America is the only country with this specific problem.
I really resent this comment. I have NEVER treated women with anything but the utmost of respect. I have never advocated treating them like "garbage" because it supposedly works. I don't believe that it does.
I have been treated poorly in return by some women. As I see it, they think that they are the ones with the valuable goods to sell and can treat all men who don't have the price to pay, with contempt.
Women who are in the competition for men are attracted to men who have what they want and we all know that this is: looks, money and attributes that impress their girlfriends (and usually concern their parents). Nearly all nice, decent men are deficient in at least 1 of these things, and most likely all three. As a result, they are invisible.
Well hey I really resent the comments that 'women only want men with lots of money,' 'women using their vaginas as something for profit,' 'women don't really want nice guys,' etc. Obviously you say the things that you do, b/c you beleive they are true, well same here.
I didn't say you advocated treating women like garbage. I'm saying I beleive a lot of men that already treat women badly us the excuse that 'women don't want a nice guy anyway, they only date jerks' to get away with that behavior. In fact, there's a guy on here yesterday saying how he turned into the "bad boy" b/c women walked all over him or whatever . It's always "I used to be this nice guy and women turned me into a creep." My point was: they were never nice in the first place.
You act like men are so noble and forgiving when it comes to choosing women. Yea right, LOL. Women that are 'deficient' in the areas men want, get passed over as well. Another poster said it right: men chase after 1% of the women in the world and the other 99% get ignored. We have to read about Kate Upton every other day as a result of them chasing that 1%.
Sometimes I feel like half the people on these boards play in an entirely different mating pool than I do, one that is populated by sociopaths and lunatics all fraught with severe neuroses and carrying razor blades. I'm glad I don't live in Bizarro world with them.
Exactly.
I think there's this Bizarro world of dating where everyone is totally dysfunctional, including the "nice guys." They finish last in the dysfunctional dating world because everyone is dysfunctional.
There's also a "secret" dating world, populated by tons of nice guys and nice girls. I'd say most people are in this dating world at some point, and meet their significant others that way. Strict rules, playing games, or any of that nonsense in the "secret" dating world in minimized. But people in the "dysfunctional" dating world have no idea how to get to the "secret" dating world, because they refuse to go with the flow and enjoy life without getting so caught up in irrelevant details.
It's true that bad things happen to good people, but seriously - most dudes I know are nice guys and most of them really haven't had trouble finding great girls.
I think there's this Bizarro world of dating where everyone is totally dysfunctional, including the "nice guys." They finish last in the dysfunctional dating world because everyone is dysfunctional.
There's also a "secret" dating world, populated by tons of nice guys and nice girls. I'd say most people are in this dating world at some point, and meet their significant others that way. Strict rules, playing games, or any of that nonsense in the "secret" dating world in minimized. But people in the "dysfunctional" dating world have no idea how to get to the "secret" dating world, because they refuse to go with the flow and enjoy life without getting so caught up in irrelevant details.
It's true that bad things happen to good people, but seriously - most dudes I know are nice guys and most of them really haven't had trouble finding great girls.
well not trying to be rude: But just b/c both you came across people that were nice, good, and all that other stuff, that is great and good for you & everything -- but that doesn't mean jack squat to me on a personal level. Going with the flow got me the same place I am now -- nowhere. And not for nothing but all the crap these 'in love' 'perfectly mated pairs' or whatever they talk about, sounds like bizarre universe bullsh*t to me too.
well not trying to be rude: But just b/c both you came across people that were nice, good, and all that other stuff, that is great and good for you & everything -- but that doesn't mean jack squat to me on a personal level. Going with the flow got me the same place I am now -- nowhere. And not for nothing but all the crap these 'in love' 'perfectly mated pairs' or whatever they talk about, sounds like bizarre universe bullsh*t to me too.
Grossly overweight
Aged virgin
Living in Grandma's basement
Unemployed since 1988
Addicted to porn (only "outlet to real life")
In reality, nice guys are the men who have the most sex, the best sex and the happiest relationships. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together and some life experience will readily confirm.
Lonely shut ins want to believe nice guys are losers because it makes them feel better about their pathetic lives.
Grossly overweight
Aged virgin
Living in Grandma's basement
Unemployed since 1988
Addicted to porn (only "outlet to real life")
In reality, nice guys are the men who have the most sex, the best sex and the happiest relationships. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together and some life experience will readily confirm.
Lonely shut ins want to believe nice guys are losers because it makes them feel better about their pathetic lives.
I agree. in the other thread he's an international ladies man now according to him, been screwing women from all over the globe. He stopped by City Data on a Saturday night to let us know. So now you know... Majority of men that paint elaborate pictures of their lives online, the less true it is. If nothing else he's good for a laugh on an otherwise slow night.
Lonely shut ins want to believe nice guys are losers because it makes them feel better about their pathetic lives.
I'm glad someone finally explained where the anti-nice guy bias is coming from on this forum.
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. It's always "I used to be this nice guy and women turned me into a creep." My point was: they were never nice in the first place. 
