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Old 03-15-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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That's the bottom line.

Science is real, kids, whether you think so or not. Even posting random GIF files found on the interwebs won't change reality, as it turns out. Crazy, huh?
In the name of "science," why don't you repost the same question here on this board?

Even if you only get 20 replies, the ratio would be a lot higher than what was gotten out of the original "study." 20/200=10% 349/30000000 = a little over 1 millionth of a %

Part of the scientific study is retesting hypotheses, to see if you can come up with a consistent conclusion.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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In the name of "science," why don't you repost the same question here on this board?
That wouldn't be very scientific for several reasons, sampling error being a big one.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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In the name of "science," why don't you repost the same question here on this board?

Even if you only get 20 replies, the ratio would be a lot higher than what was gotten out of the original "study." 20/200=10% 349/30000000 = a little over 1 millionth of a %

Part of the scientific study is retesting hypotheses, to see if you can come up with a consistent conclusion.
Exactly!

Not to mention somebody already pointed out "People lie on surveys".
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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People tend to up their own status and deflate that of others," said panelist Stephen Ceci, Cornell professor of developmental psychology, and that could be one reason people lie on surveys. For example, in surveys of Cornell psychology students in the 1960s, Ceci found that "students systematically put higher SAT scores on their surveys" than those they actually earned.

Another reason why people may lie on surveys, Ceci said, is that survey questions may "engender a conscious protective or defensive response." People may not want others to know something about them or may be embarrassed by the survey questions.

"It is very difficult to know if someone is lying on a survey, and it should not be readily assumed that lying is occurring," said panelist Norbert Schwarz, a psychology professor at the University of Michigan. "People need time to think and respond to questions asked, and if surveys don't allow this, there will inherently be discrepancies in the survey results."
His research, he said, has shown that survey results shift even when people don't lie or don't know how to lie on the surveys.

Quite frankly, asking somebody "Do you fantasize about other people while having sex?" Is a survey, it's hardly science.

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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People tend to up their own status and deflate that of others," said panelist Stephen Ceci, Cornell professor of developmental psychology, and that could be one reason people lie on surveys. For example, in surveys of Cornell psychology students in the 1960s, Ceci found that "students systematically put higher SAT scores on their surveys" than those they actually earned.

Another reason why people may lie on surveys, Ceci said, is that survey questions may "engender a conscious protective or defensive response." People may not want others to know something about them or may be embarrassed by the survey questions.

"It is very difficult to know if someone is lying on a survey, and it should not be readily assumed that lying is occurring," said panelist Norbert Schwarz, a psychology professor at the University of Michigan. "People need time to think and respond to questions asked, and if surveys don't allow this, there will inherently be discrepancies in the survey results."
His research, he said, has shown that survey results shift even when people don't lie or don't know how to lie on the surveys.

Quite frankly, asking somebody "Do you fantasize about other people while having sex?" Is a survey, it hardly is science.
A "conscious protective or defensive response" and/or the respondents being "embarrassed by the survey questions" would make them less likely to acknowledge fantasizing about others, not more. So if your point was that the 98% and 80% numbers are probably low-end estimates, I agree. I'd say up to 2% of men and 20% of women lied.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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A "conscious protective or defensive response" and/or the respondents being "embarrassed by the survey questions" would make them less likely to acknowledge fantasizing about others, not more. So if your point was that the 98% and 80% numbers are probably low-end estimates, I agree. I'd say up to 2% of men and 20% of women lied.
So either your way or the high way, I get it.

I guess I really have nothing valuable to add at this point.

You are right, I am wrong. I am so sorry to have argued with you.
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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what kind of sex are you having that you have to pretend to not be having it?
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:16 PM
 
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If I go by what I read on the internet, and I have to because I don't know any females in real life, I imagine a good majority of women are doing it a lot. They don't seem to be very happy with the guys they have.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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women aren't happy, period. if it's not this, it's that...
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Apopka
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Personally, I think if you have to imagine someone else while you are having sex you need to leave the relationship because that person obviously isn't enough to excite you. Or, you could try to cultivate a deeper mental relationship with the person so the connection will be there.
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