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Too many variables to go one size fits all. On the other hand for most people this will be a constant source of friction and a constant source of friction of any kind is problematic over the long haul.
Personally I'm a carnivore and the only other food group that I actually enjoy is booze. This is of course discounting chocolate which I think can safely be considered a neutral food group for this discussion. Anyhow so long as I get charred animal flesh with every meal and no grief over it what she eats is not a concern for me.
Nope! Vegan men are too feminized thanks to all the soy they consume. And most meat subs are agricultural waste. And finally I have never met a vegan who wasn't irritating. Even the ones who claim don't preach end being annoying too.
This kind of arrogant stuff about vegans is spouted off generally by the teabillies. It's their defence mechanism against men who care about things other than muscle cars and george foreman grills.
I would probably not date one. In my experience, they are often quite smug regarding their choice and can be critical of those who eat meat or whatever else they don't approve of. I don't really have the patience to deal with that. Vegetarians/vegans usually have very different political views than I do, and look at life differently, so we're not compatible anyway.
If I were single, I might date a vegan, with low expectations. Depends on our chemistry. Even the most sensible-seeming people become preachy once they become vegan.
It's not that I don't agree with them in principle, I just don't think it would be easy or physically comfortable to maintain that diet over the long haul. Plus I would feel very sad to give up really good food. I'm sorry, many of those substitutions for eggs, meat, milk, and cheese are not very tasty and are suspiciously over-processed.
If I were single, I might date a vegan, with low expectations. Depends on our chemistry. Even the most sensible-seeming people become preachy once they become vegan.
It's not that I don't agree with them in principle, I just don't think it would be easy or physically comfortable to maintain that diet over the long haul. Plus I would feel very sad to give up really good food. I'm sorry, many of those substitutions for eggs, meat, milk, and cheese are not very tasty and are suspiciously over-processed.
And preachiness is a major turnoff.
Why do you assume they would ask you to?
That's what I don't get about this thread.
Most veggies I know look at it like this: You're an adult. Unless you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years, you know where meat comes from, what it consists of, and how it gets to your plate. You know how the animals are treated, you know what they are fed and how they are medicated, and you know the conditions they live in. The information is all around you, from Facebook to the movie theater with movies like Food, Inc. You decide what you want to do about it for yourself, not anyone else.
I'm an atheist. There's a parallel here. I don't like preachiness, myself, and would not tolerate that from someone who is religious. Therefore, I don't preach to others. I also realize that there will always be people who eat meat, just like there will always be people who believe in deities. I once did both, myself.
All I can do is try to ensure that I am not discriminated against in terms of jobs, housing, and so on and that my civil rights are not violated because of my beliefs. With respect to animals, I can support legislation to enforce humane handling, and clean, drug- and hormone-free conditions, not only for the animal's sake, but for humans'.
My friends and family know I don't eat meat. When they host, they remember to include meat-free options at gatherings, which I think is pretty awesome and considerate of them. (And for the question that I know I'm going to get: No, when I host, I do not supply meat. You wouldn't expect a Jew or Muslim to supply ham, a Hindu to supply beef, or, during Lent, a Catholic to supply meat on Fridays, would you? If it's a pot luck or something, and they want to bring it, they can bring it, but I'm not spending money on it or preparing it.)
My friends and family also know that if they have questions or want to learn about a meat-free lifestyle, they can ask me and I'll give them the information they seek: What stores and restaurants cater to veggie-ness, where to get protein and iron in the diet, etc.
I have friends who have celiac disease. My SO can't have milk or soft cheese (lactose intolerance), has two food allergies (including one for which he must carry an Epi-Pen), and hates all seafood except for calimari. I once dated someone who was allergic to most grains and vegetables. I have friends who have type 1 diabetes. In all honesty, their dietary needs are far more complex and convoluted than mine, and they require more accommodation than I do. Something to think about before meat-eaters go off on how "inconvenient" it would be to date a vegetarian. The only real inconvenience to you would be if you expect your partner to cook for you and instead you actually had to cook your meat yourself.
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I think liliac makes some good points and I can deal with people that have her attitude. I just find that the strict vegan types can be a bit over-bearing about their views. Not saying all, but the few that I've known.
I think dealing with someone that is a "veggie" isn't that bad in terms of trying to adhere to their diet choices. I sometimes take a day out of the week and try to not eat any meat, don't always make it, but I try.
It's just strict vegans are much harder to accommodate at food gatherings. Veggies, seem to be much easier. In my humble opinion.
I don't disrespect vegans, and I don't think that they're weird or anything (though I do think veganism is pretentious, which is different.) I don't know that I'd be happy dating a vegan. I don't eat a lot of meat, but I do like eggs and cheese. I like to cook and try new restaurants, and that wouldn't be something we'd really be able to share. It would even make traveling difficult, as not all cultures understand a completely animal-free lifestyle. Also, soy cheese is disgusting.
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