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Problem is, some people (like me, for example) are considered good-looking in the non-western sense but ugly because we don't fit into western framework of beauty. Fair or not, it is a reality for some of us. That sucks.
I don't fit into the western sense of beauty either, as I'm not white. That's something I had to contend with growing up and yes it's tough but not impossible to overcome. How else did I end up with a white guy...
He's not hideous or deformed. He's in fact, perfectly normal looking. A guy like that would just not be attractive to women in general. Even his own.
If he really did up his hair and got cool glasses and cool clothes, could he attract a woman? I dunno. Maybe, maybe not.
But the point stands that almost all women would not find him physically attractive so he'd have to approach the game in another way.
How is he approaching people? Does he speak well? Is he warm and inviting, or cold and creepy? Does he smell funny? Does he show a genuine interest in the people he speaks to? Or is he self-centered? What are his grooming habits like?
There is a lot more to people than immediately deciding they are a no based entirely on looks alone. Yes, he is perfectly normal looking. There's nothing wrong with his hair or glasses. But he looks like he might be at work, so what is he like outside of work? A picture might be a thousand words but your actions will always speak louder.
How is he approaching people? Does he speak well? Is he warm and inviting, or cold and creepy? Does he smell funny? Does he show a genuine interest in the people he speaks to? Or is he self-centered? What are his grooming habits like?
There is a lot more to people than immediately deciding they are a no based entirely on looks alone. Yes, he is perfectly normal looking. There's nothing wrong with his hair or glasses. But he looks like he might be at work, so what is he like outside of work? A picture might be a thousand words but your actions will always speak louder.
None of that matters if the bottom line looks are not there. It's what I've been saying forever. A woman could think he is the coolest guy ever and no dice. She's known she won't date him from 90 seconds in.
So, what such guys have to do is go around until they get a maybe from a woman, and then pounce on it. There's still a high chance of rejection after that but at least it's not immediate rejection.
I estimate 'maybe' women comprise 5-10% of the population. So men who cannot attract women need to go for them. So, if you make your interest known ASAP, you'll get a whole crapload of nos and then a maybe every now and then.
Attitude is also everything. If you're going to go out there with the attitude that you suck and are hella ugly, don't expect women to think you're dashingly interesting. I have seen less than average men and average looking men have girlfriends while their more attractive counterparts spent their weekends alone.
Maybe it's also an age thing too, as I'm a bit older. A lot of younger women haven't learned the lost art of Getting Over Themselves.
Attitude is also everything. If you're going to go out there with the attitude that you suck and are hella ugly, don't expect women to think you're dashingly interesting. I have seen less than average men and average looking men have girlfriends while their more attractive counterparts spent their weekends alone.
Maybe it's also an age thing too, as I'm a bit older. A lot of younger women haven't learned the lost art of Getting Over Themselves.
Nobody goes out there thinking they are ugly as sh@t.
As I said before, I don't think most of the guys who can't attract women are ugly or think they are ugly.
There are thousands upon thousands of men who have never been called handsome or hot by a woman. Women just have a pretty high standard when it comes to men they find physically attractive.
Nobody goes out there thinking they are ugly as sh@t.
As I said before, I don't think most of the guys who can't attract women are ugly or think they are ugly.
There are thousands upon thousands of men who have never been called handsome or hot by a woman. Women just have a pretty high standard when it comes to men they find physically attractive.
Yeah, tons of men figure they're ugly because women typically don't give out physical compliments to a guy unless they are dating or in a relationship.
What is up with these "I'm so ugly" threads? Do people really believe they are SO unattractive they can't ever meet anyone? Pics or you're not ugly.
This is silly. Even if any of the less than attractive members of this forum were bold enough to post their picture, no one would respond outright and admit that they are indeed ugly.
The fact you think that all people who are convinced they are ugly is the result of low self-esteem shows how fundamentally disconnected from reality you really are. Of course, it's highly possible in that only attractive men really exist in that myopic bubble of yours, and the vast majority of other men are practically invisible, not unlike most women. It's quite easy to see how you can be so baffled that there exists men who are universally undesirable to women.
This is silly. Even if any of the less than attractive members of this forum were bold enough to post their picture, no one would respond outright and admit that they are indeed ugly.
The fact you think that all people who are convinced they are ugly is the result of low self-esteem shows how fundamentally disconnected from reality you really are. Of course, it's highly possible in that only attractive men really exist in that myopic bubble of yours, and the vast majority of other men are practically invisible, not unlike most women. It's quite easy to see how you can be so baffled that there exists men who are universally undesirable to women.
Many men think they are ugly and they really aren't. Beauty is in the opinion of each individual.
I had dates where they were handsome to me, but friends and family didn't find they attractive.
Many men think they are ugly and they really aren't. Beauty is in the opinion of each individual.
I had dates where they were handsome to me, but friends and family didn't find they attractive.
That only applies once a certain cut-off has been surpassed in terms of looks. Even though you'll likely refuse to admit it, but I'd wager that you have seen men that you, your friends, and practically all other women would unanimously agree are physically repulsive. Your friends didn't say your dates were outright unattractive and that you're crazy for being into them, did they?
The concept of looks being relative is a cliche and only partially true at best. Contrary to this extremely simplistic but cherished worldview, the fact remains that there really are physical qualities that transcend preference. Very few women in the world will be attracted to a man with an extremely asymmetric face, for example.
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