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Advertising does not sell me .
I do not buy on line ,normally , and usually I want to check out the product on my own and review a history .
I let the world pay for the R&D and I almost never buy any thing fresh on the market.
It's paid off for me for a lifetime repeatedly .
Men didn't use subversive tactics years ago very much , most guys I know didn't know how.
Women generally train one another in the art of acting.
So now the shoe is on the other foot and more men are learning to be as deceptive , very interesting.
Probably due to learning on line from other men in ways they never did before.
Men are becoming/acting more effeminate and women are going for it .
Keep this in mind folks ,people that "act"basically are deceiving , which essentially is a lie which means having a legitimate relationship in this fashion is a fantasy.
I'm sure this makes sense to somebody somewhere…
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It is my absolute duty to agree, however I am not certain this will ever really happen at least not in The US or Canada or even in the entire continent of America, but I would love to be objectified by women, especially hot ones
I don't have a great body. Never will, but I'm in better shape than every before (except maybe after high school soccer season 25 years ago). But when you meet someone and they objectify you in bed and comment, man... it feels real good, and the gym workouts get even better. It's the ultimate positive reinforcement.
I don't have a great body. Never will, but I'm in better shape than every before (except maybe after high school soccer season 25 years ago). But when you meet someone and they objectify you in bed and comment, man... it feels real good, and the gym workouts get even better. It's the ultimate positive reinforcement.
Good looking men in advertisements has been around for a while (even before Coke, we had the Marlboro Man).
My concern with objectification (of both men and women) is how it effects young people who aren't really that discerning yet. Eating disorders have been a problem for young girls for a long time... and there is a lot of researcher to back up how it negatively effects girls and body image. And now growing numbers of young boys are suffering too and eating disorders are up among boys. It's a deadly and dangerous trend.
Just like the Barbie doll look and proportions are unobtainable and unrealistic for women, the hair free, fat-free, and six-pack muscle-bound men in ads are just as unrealistic. I think, just like with young girls, young boys seeing these things develop a negative body imagine, which has been linked to depression and other mental health issues.
There is a lot of focus recently on how unrealistic women's images are (like in this one-minute video below) in order to show girls how distorted things can be. I really think they should do the same for boys too--before they start developing the degree of issues so many girls and women have had face for so long.
I never understood marketing and how it correlates to sales. I can't see why anyone would be influenced to buy a Coke based on a stupid commercial. If a I like Coke, I'll buy it. If I don't, nothing they use to market it will make me anymore likely to buy it.
Yes they will. Possibly less so than others, but it almost definitely has an effect. The industry spends enough money to make this happen, and they're not doing it for fun.
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What phone do you own, how did you hear about any of the items you own and purchased, use the most? No influences about why you picked out any specific items you use, movies you go see? Possibly it could be by default?
An interesting side note to this: There are a handful of brands/products that are notorious for being popular with the idiot/douchebag/etc. demographic. What do you consider is more likely?
1) That these particular products just HAPPEN to be popular with the idiots of the world?
or
2) That these particular products have excellent marketing campaigns and these particular demographics happen to be more susceptible to subconscious influence.
I would submit that it's #2. In some cases, the brand in question happens to be a perfectly good brand, and thus will gain some popularity outside that particular demographic, but often times it's simply a mediocre product with an excellent marketing campaign.
I don't have a great body. Never will, but I'm in better shape than every before (except maybe after high school soccer season 25 years ago). But when you meet someone and they objectify you in bed and comment, man... it feels real good, and the gym workouts get even better. It's the ultimate positive reinforcement.
I agree, but only because I was in a similar boat at one point. If it's the kind of thing you hear all the time, it gets old and (depending on the person), can be offensive. I'm not one of those people, but there are PLENTY out there. People can get sick of hearing the same kind of compliment, because it has the potential to make them feel as if it's their only value.
But when you meet someone and they objectify you in bed and comment, man... it feels real good, and the gym workouts get even better. It's the ultimate positive reinforcement.
Being objectified by someone that you're involved with is a different dynamic than being objectified by some stranger off the street, though. To them you're just a thing, or a decoration, I don't see it too often with the genders reversed, but in the Fashion and Beauty forum on this board, men will often start threads about "why do women do/wear this? I don't think it's hot." As if women exist only to give this one guy on the internet a boner.
Jillabean does bring up a good point about body issues extending to men (especially young men) now. Hugh Jackman doesn't walk around ripped like Wolverine when he's not shooting a movie, but that's what guys think they have to look like 24/7, and it's just as destructive an ideal as the willowy model for women.
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Being objectified by someone that you're involved with is a different dynamic than being objectified by some stranger off the street, though. To them you're just a thing, or a decoration, I don't see it too often with the genders reversed, but in the Fashion and Beauty forum on this board, men will often start threads about "why do women do/wear this? I don't think it's hot." As if women exist only to give this one guy on the internet a boner.
I'd be happy with a stranger doing it as well. It makes me feel good, even if they see me as just a piece of meat. Sure, I want the person I like to want me as a person, but after spending much of my teens and 20s with low self esteem and working hard to get into shape and being at a place where I'm physically happy with myself, it is great having someone recognize it. Maybe because it happens so very rarely to men, but if a woman came up to me and wanted me for my body and just to use me physically, I'd be cool with that. Even super happy about it. Grass is always greener.
And sure, the extremes that go into unhealthy levels is bad. No doubt. Eating disorders, use of supplements, etc etc etc... not healthy. But seriously, the U.S. could use more people that worked hard on being in shape. It's hardly an issue now from what I see.
Being objectified by someone that you're involved with is a different dynamic than being objectified by some stranger off the street, though. To them you're just a thing, or a decoration, I don't see it too often with the genders reversed, but in the Fashion and Beauty forum on this board, men will often start threads about "why do women do/wear this? I don't think it's hot." As if women exist only to give this one guy on the internet a boner.
Jillabean does bring up a good point about body issues extending to men (especially young men) now. Hugh Jackman doesn't walk around ripped like Wolverine when he's not shooting a movie, but that's what guys think they have to look like 24/7, and it's just as destructive an ideal as the willowy model for women.
Hugh Jackman is an actor and he does whatever he needs to do get paid big money, there is probably no passion there, I personally like to look ripped and in great shape all the time and there is nothing unhealthy about that, of course I don't exactly look like Wolverine , it is the methods that some men especially actors like him use to acheive that physique that are not good, but that is a separate topic.
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, however I am not certain this will ever really happen at least not in The US or Canada or even in the entire continent of America, but I would love to be objectified by women, especially hot ones
, it is the methods that some men especially actors like him use to acheive that physique that are not good, but that is a separate topic.
