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Old 08-07-2014, 06:40 PM
 
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There it is ^^!!

BTW, it's not the same thing at all. Not even close.
Yes it is.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Not in parts of Nevada it's not. So let me get this straight, you (and many other women here) don't have a problem with a man "sowing his oats" just so long as he doesn't pay for it? That's ridiculous. So if he has sex with 15 women that he met at a bar/nightclub/party that's fine, but if he goes to a brothel 15 times it's not? I'll come out and say it, I lived in Nevada for 10 years and visited brothels there from time to time. I felt much safer about not catching an STD going to these places than going to singles bars in Las Vegas. The women there are tested regularly. I personally think a guy has a much better chance of catching something going to a nightclub or bar.
You and I have a fundamental difference. You think exchanging sex for money is OK. I do not.

I don't care about Nevada. I don't care about people in bars. I do care that prostitution reduces humans to commodities. It will always be associated with crime and exploitation. Many of those who participate in the "profession" don't have much more say than cows being herded to slaughter do. Of course, none of that matters when you need to get off, I guess.

Highlife obviously has a problem if he thinks he cannot "hold out" for a legitimate relationship because of his hormonal urges. I agree that he needs to be treated for sexual addiction and stop pretending this plan would work.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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Not in parts of Nevada it's not. So let me get this straight, you (and many other women here) don't have a problem with a man "sowing his oats" just so long as he doesn't pay for it? That's ridiculous. So if he has sex with 15 women that he met at a bar/nightclub/party that's fine, but if he goes to a brothel 15 times it's not? I'll come out and say it, I lived in Nevada for 10 years and visited brothels there from time to time. I felt much safer about not catching an STD going to these places than going to singles bars in Las Vegas. The women there are tested regularly. I personally think a guy has a much better chance of catching something going to a nightclub or bar.
I think what it boils down to is it gets under a womans craw that a prostitute enables a guy to get laid without having much game. Women like it when they have lots of attention, even the "unwanted attention". I agree it is different but if im getting laid THE WAY I WANT IT at the end of the day then I dont really care if I had to "cheat" to do it. Cheat as in circumvent the "game" not cheat on a partner. Because lets all be honest, its the guys that have to play the game the women sit back and pick and choose. How is that any fun for the guy, its not, its a nightmare unless your one of the very few men that is very rarely told no to a sexual advance. One of the posters on here even has a handle "I dont date you".
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I think what it boils down to is it gets under a womans craw that a prostitute enables a guy to get laid without having much game. Women like it when they have lots of attention, even the "unwanted attention".


I'm starting to understand why you have a problem.

According to the guys in this thread, women are getting laid left and right just by existing!! Plenty of attention!!
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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You and I have a fundamental difference. You think exchanging sex for money is OK. I do not.

I don't care about Nevada. I don't care about people in bars. I do care that prostitution reduces humans to commodities. It will always be associated with crime and exploitation. Many of those who participate in the "profession" don't have much more say than cows being herded to slaughter do. Of course, none of that matters when you need to get off, I guess.

Highlife obviously has a problem if he thinks he cannot "hold out" for a legitimate relationship because of his hormonal urges. I agree that he needs to be treated for sexual addiction and stop pretending this plan would work.
sounds like my ex lol, any man with a high sex drive is automaticly a sex addict. But the guy with game and a high sex drive is ok. I can get lagit relationships, in fact I have never been with a prostitute before and have seldom had to use my right hand but its not without consequence. I held out for a long time from like 18 to 21 and it became apparent that I was just wasting the best years of my life, better to find someone who is willing than keep holding out. Because you dont get that time back, I dont have any fond memories of being with that cute girl in the back of a car in high school because I was not desirable enough even in college I had to settle.

I think being treated like a commodity is just as bad as being treated as sexually undesirable by women your interested in. I am a commodity at work, I trade labor for money so am I being "exploited", seriously?
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:27 PM
 
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You and I have a fundamental difference. You think exchanging sex for money is OK. I do not.

I don't care about Nevada. I don't care about people in bars. I do care that prostitution reduces humans to commodities. It will always be associated with crime and exploitation. Many of those who participate in the "profession" don't have much more say than cows being herded to slaughter do. Of course, none of that matters when you need to get off, I guess.

Highlife obviously has a problem if he thinks he cannot "hold out" for a legitimate relationship because of his hormonal urges. I agree that he needs to be treated for sexual addiction and stop pretending this plan would work.
Well you don't have to care about Nevada, the fact is it IS legal in many parts of the state. And it also might surprise you that a good portion do it because they want to, not because anyone is forcing them to. Now human trafficking and forcing, that's an entirely different situation. This is not the case with these brothels in Nevada. You can not like it all you want, it's not going away. And more men go this route than you think. I personally have never told a woman I visited these places. Quite frankly, it's none of her business. I am clean and never had an STD. That is all that should matter. I've never asked a woman how many men she has been with, none of my business. And that goes both ways.

As or Highlife, he does not have a problem. He can do whatever he wants (within reason of course).
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:31 PM
 
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I'm starting to understand why you have a problem.

According to the guys in this thread, women are getting laid left and right just by existing!! Plenty of attention!!
They do, they may choose not to partake but that is their choice. Unless the woman is really unattractive she gets attention if she puts herself out there. My friend has been on the dating market now for close to 3 years and he is holding out but its taking a toll, any women who are half way attractive and somewhat healthy are really fickle and play the field, at least the women he has been seeing. Something is out of whack socially when wanting sex 4 times a week is an "addict" and wanting a woman that is half way decent looking is like finding the arc of the covenant.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:31 PM
 
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I think what it boils down to is it gets under a womans craw that a prostitute enables a guy to get laid without having much game. Women like it when they have lots of attention, even the "unwanted attention". I agree it is different but if im getting laid THE WAY I WANT IT at the end of the day then I dont really care if I had to "cheat" to do it. Cheat as in circumvent the "game" not cheat on a partner. Because lets all be honest, its the guys that have to play the game the women sit back and pick and choose. How is that any fun for the guy, its not, its a nightmare unless your one of the very few men that is very rarely told no to a sexual advance. One of the posters on here even has a handle "I dont date you".
I think there is a lot of truth to what you said. Even in this day and age of the "empowered woman", they still expect YOU to pursue THEM. You need to woo them, jump through ten million hoops to prove you are worthy of their time. Pay for all the dates and activities. Very few women are willing to ask a guy out, and them actually paying, HA! Yes as far as the dating game goes, women call all the shots. Using an escort takes that away, and a lot of women are threatened by that.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:37 PM
 
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Well you don't have to care about Nevada, the fact is it IS legal in many parts of the state. And it also might surprise you that a good portion do it because they want to, not because anyone is forcing them to. Now human trafficking and forcing, that's an entirely different situation. This is not the case with these brothels in Nevada. You can not like it all you want, it's not going away. And more men go this route than you think. I personally have never told a woman I visited these places. Quite frankly, it's none of her business. I am clean and never had an STD. That is all that should matter. I've never asked a woman how many men she has been with, none of my business. And that goes both ways.

As or Highlife, he does not have a problem. He can do whatever he wants (within reason of course).
The only problem with Nevada is the costs are out of sight, certianly not 50$ a pop, not even 100$ so its not really sustainable as a substitute for a relationship in my opinion. Plus you would have to live and work in thoes counties for it to be practical. Certianly not in the dating climate I have experienced where I can bulk out power lifting with an engineering degree and if I go after a woman that is even half way decent she has like 7 guys lined up, either that or she is in some wierd funk where she is out dating but half hearted.

I dont know what the deal is or if things have been this way since the dawn of time but its really frustrating. Its just a matter of time before I get dumped becuase I am no where near ready to get remarried but im already being pressured, she dumped me for like a week then came back. I dont think she cheated but still it was a bunch of drama.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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The only problem with Nevada is the costs are out of sight, certianly not 50$ a pop, not even 100$ so its not really sustainable as a substitute for a relationship in my opinion. Plus you would have to live and work in thoes counties for it to be practical. Certianly not in the dating climate I have experienced where I can bulk out power lifting with an engineering degree and if I go after a woman that is even half way decent she has like 7 guys lined up, either that or she is in some wierd funk where she is out dating but half hearted.

I dont know what the deal is or if things have been this way since the dawn of time but its really frustrating. Its just a matter of time before I get dumped becuase I am no where near ready to get remarried but im already being pressured, she dumped me for like a week then came back. I dont think she cheated but still it was a bunch of drama.
I can understand this, especially if you don't live there and have to pay for airfare and hotel costs. I lived there, so the costs were not that high, and this was about 15 to 20 years ago too.
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