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They do, they may choose not to partake but that is their choice. Unless the woman is really unattractive she gets attention if she puts herself out there. .
You're making my point for me.
According to you, with YOU being the undesirable one in the alternate scenario, this isn't true.
"Halfway attractive and somewhat healthy"?? And those who are only, say, one quarter attractive, they shouldn't worry about getting any because, well, even the desperate men won't go there??
Well you don't have to care about Nevada, the fact is it IS legal in many parts of the state. And it also might surprise you that a good portion do it because they want to, not because anyone is forcing them to. Now human trafficking and forcing, that's an entirely different situation. This is not the case with these brothels in Nevada. You can not like it all you want, it's not going away. And more men go this route than you think. I personally have never told a woman I visited these places. Quite frankly, it's none of her business. I am clean and never had an STD. That is all that should matter. I've never asked a woman how many men she has been with, none of my business. And that goes both ways.
As or Highlife, he does not have a problem. He can do whatever he wants (within reason of course).
The bold says all I need to know. Shame always speaks volumes.
I think there is a lot of truth to what you said. Even in this day and age of the "empowered woman", they still expect YOU to pursue THEM. You need to woo them, jump through ten million hoops to prove you are worthy of their time. Pay for all the dates and activities. Very few women are willing to ask a guy out, and them actually paying, HA! Yes as far as the dating game goes, women call all the shots. Using an escort takes that away, and a lot of women are threatened by that.
The thing is even if I were forced down that road in the future its still not ideal so I would still be out dating, I just wouldent settle. There have been other threads where women have said they would never want to be the woman who was just good enough. But yet they want to make guys jump through so many hoops that thats exactly what men do, settle or hire out unless they are the top 10%.
If as a woman you are gaga for a guy its probably because you dated way up and he is just tired of playing the games with the women in his own leauge or maybe a point better than him. Then they get upset when the find out he settled.
The bold says all I need to know. Shame always speaks volumes.
Why should I feel shame? A person's sexual past is is nobody's business but theirs (again provided they are STD-free). I've never asked a woman about her past and I expect the same in return.
sounds like my ex lol, any man with a high sex drive is automaticly a sex addict.
It's not your supposed high sex drive or how much or how many times you want it that makes you an addict. It's the fact that you think you can't "hold out" long enough to find a whole, satisfactory relationship.
Or wait and have great sex with your wife one day? What makes you think shacking up with a prostitute will make everything better? I think you'll wind up feeling like trash that you have to PAY for sex and the way it will and it WILL affect your marriage one day.
I don't see a problem. I don't see a difference between getting an escort and having a FWB. Sure there is money exchanged, but if they are both consensual I don't see what the big deal is.
I find it funny that some women say they'd dump their boyfriend if they found out he slept with an escort, but they cry like hell if he dumps her because she slept with too many guys.
What makes you think we are the same women?
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I think there is a line between patience and just wasting time you cant get back sitting around masterbating to porn. Where is that dry spell line, 4 months, 6 months a year, 2 years. People that met their soul mate in high school or early 20's might have a harder time understanding.
Again...look at the focus. You are not considering - "What do I bring to the table for my ideal woman? How can I improve myself to become more attractive to such a woman?". Do you think that getting an escort will bring you closer to being the kind of man your ideal wants, or further from it?
FYI, I'm 30, no soulmate in sight, and it's been 3 years since my last LTR. So don't tell me I don't get it.
Again...look at the focus. You are not considering - "What do I bring to the table for my ideal woman? How can I improve myself to become more attractive to such a woman?". Do you think that getting an escort will bring you closer to being the kind of man your ideal wants, or further from it?
FYI, I'm 30, no soulmate in sight, and it's been 3 years since my last LTR. So don't tell me I don't get it.
So is that 3 years with absolutely no touch from a man (or woman) what so ever. Also have you been propositioned and they just not quite to your liking or are you invisible to men. I have not studied phycology but to me I would think it would be MUCH easier being single if it was because I was choosing to be single because there were SO many options I just couldent choose as opposed to so few options.
One is voluntary and one is involuntary. Unless the men that were propositioning you were really really super far below your standards.
My gf said she was single 6 years waiting for a guy like me so then why would she start pressuring me for marriage early on (at least what I consider early when she knows my past) break up with me for a week then come back and be happy. Is this normal woman behavior. I have hinted that she could stand to loose some weight (not in the 160 lb woman that some guy feels needs to loose 20 lbs either) but I met her that way so I guess I cant complain much.
I guess I am the way I am because I was single for 3 years a while ago and still had to end up settling to break the aweful dry spell.
The whole thing just gets exhausting. Unless the man is the brawny paper towel guy (and I was actually pretty much there, I was all hulked out with a beard, engineering degree, etc) it was like nothing I did mattered, women will make men jump through massive hoops. Then when men do the same thing later in life women get all cranky about it, like the posts about guys not wanting to get married for 10 years, it seems women can fake it for a good long time, then when there is a marriage and kids her behavior goes in the toilet. This is obviously not true in all cases but its not like its rare either. I have been divorced twice and had to sit in the court room, its not fun.
Also I bring a lot to the table. I just do stuff for myself now.
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So is that 3 years with absolutely no touch from a man (or woman) what so ever. Also have you been propositioned and they just not quite to your liking or are you invisible to men. I have not studied phycology but to me I would think it would be MUCH easier being single if it was because I was choosing to be single because there were SO many options I just couldent choose as opposed to so few options.
One is voluntary and one is involuntary. Unless the men that were propositioning you were really really super far below your standards.
You're making big assumptions. Orangeapple has said before she rarely gets approached by men. Why would you be surprised that 3 years alone would mean 3 years without any touch whatsoever? That's actually quite typical for women in general. Not only no touch, but no approaches (and no response if approaching men themselves) isn't unusual.
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