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Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Originally Posted by stinkerr
After dealing with women on here I don't know why men even try.
Man, if you think having discussions with women on here are difficult, don't try!!! For everyone's sake!!
This is normal adults conversing / debating, nothing more.
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Originally Posted by jma501
Crystal clear to me.
Then you see wrong. What works for me in a job search, isn't the same as how some of my friends found jobs. How I studied to learn isn't the same as many of my friends. My conversations / interactions with my friends and lovers aren't identical to mine with other friends/lovers, or their interactions with their other friends or lovers. Relationships are unique.
The only way you will get the interactions you saw your friend get is to become his clone. Not just in body, but in mind, heart, and spirit/energy. Even then, I suspect you saw what you wanted to see and blew it out of proportion.
This drives me up a wall. Why should I work for something given freely to others? Why should I honor others double standards?
You are the one with the double standard here - expecting women to put in effort to get to know you and attempt to create a connection and ultimately a relationship. Yet you are not willing to put in that same effort yourself.
I'd ask how that's working for you, but the answer is pretty clear.....
You have a very low opinion of women. It is probably better that you and jma steer clear of them.
please check your facts. I neither posted this nor the post it was replying to. I don't have a low opinion of women. I have had several women friends and enjoyed their company.
You are the one with the double standard here - expecting women to put in effort to get to know you and attempt to create a connection and ultimately a relationship. Yet you are not willing to put in that same effort yourself.
I'd ask how that's working for you, but the answer is pretty clear.....
I never believed things would be any different then the way they are.
A few times lately I have posted about a former friend whom women threw themselves at. I have stated that I do not approach women because unless they behave towards me like they did towards him then they are not interested. Yet every time I am told I am completely wrong. How can it be wrong when it seems crystal clear?
Man, if you think having discussions with women on here are difficult, don't try!!! For everyone's sake!!
This is normal adults conversing / debating, nothing more.
Then you see wrong. What works for me in a job search, isn't the same as how some of my friends found jobs. How I studied to learn isn't the same as many of my friends. My conversations / interactions with my friends and lovers aren't identical to mine with other friends/lovers, or their interactions with their other friends or lovers. Relationships are unique.
The only way you will get the interactions you saw your friend get is to become his clone. Not just in body, but in mind, heart, and spirit/energy. Even then, I suspect you saw what you wanted to see and blew it out of proportion.
Normal adults don't result to insults and for everyone's sake quit telling people what to do no one knows you and for all we know everything about you is a lie.
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Originally Posted by stinkerr
Normal adults don't result to insults and for everyone's sake quit telling people what to do no one knows you and for all we know everything about you is a lie.
When people complain and ask for advice (i.e. post on an advice forum like this) they are inviting input, and that is what normal adults give when solicited for advice. Complaining on here, CD, is by the nature of the forum asking for advice by definition. The smart normal people when solicited for such advice also call people on their fallacies and cognitive dissonances as well, as they are the real hurdles to finding truth and happiness. When I ***** and moan to my friends about things, they listen and call me on my sh*t as well as give me feedback (which is usually getting my screwed up head straight as I'm not seeing reality).
You know, every time I read this... I picture a woman loading herself into a catapult, launching herself toward a man, and then smashing into him at a high rate of velocity. Seems like it would hurt then again, I have a weird imagination.
I think I said this earlier (I've lost track) but some women will, some won't. It really depends on the woman's personality and experience. For example, an outgoing woman with little inhibition might just throw herself at a guy she's interested in. A shy woman, probably not. Most women are probably in between and it depends on a number of other factors not limited to her personality, experience, the situation, and signals and behavior from the man himself (AKA, a flirty guy might have more attention than man who doesn't flirt at all).
Me, I am not shy, but I learned though experience that men aren't really good at letting you know if they are really interested in you or not. If I come on to a man, he's "always" interested (even if he's only interested in me for my body parts... not interested in me as a person). I made that mistake in the past, coming on strong, and all it got me was hurt. For me, I figure it works better to just approach lightly (AKA, just be friendly, but not overly flirty) and wait for him to make the next, stronger move to see if he's got any real interest or not.
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