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Old 03-08-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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Ask any woman to describe the type of guy she's attracted to, and inevitably the word "intelligent" will be in the mix. However, I see no evidence of this playing out in real life. Some of the most unintelligent guys I know are able to score high-caliber women, and on the other hand the super intelligent guys I know struggle with women. I know geniuses who can't get a date to save their life.

Profile of the typical guy my age who does well with women:
  • Moderate to good looks
  • Confident (necessarily overconfident, big talker)
  • Showy: lives paycheck-to-paycheck but has a nice apartment, nice car, goes on lots of trips, goes out to a lot of bars/clubs

Profile of the typical intelligent guy my age:
  • Bad to decent looks
  • Unconfident, although he should be confident about (good job, good savings, good health)
  • Has real hobbies
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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Depends on your definition of "high caliber"

If the majority of your opinion weighs on how attractive a woman looks, then perhaps your opinion needs to change.

"High caliber" involves both brains and beauty, in varying amounts.

Intelligent women are awesome. To me, they don't have to be super attractive, but they have to be fairly intelligent, and a bit of sass is also a big plus.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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I never, ever dated stupid men, and I married an extremely intelligent one.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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The women you probably see with these 'not so intelligent' men are the ones who choose mates based on necessity, security, finances, social mentalities -fulfilling unmet needs, subculture clannish-ness, lack of better opportunities etc.

Many of the men you describe -who score with women though they lack qualities of a good partner and often fail in relationships- are simply able to attract women better; social skills and friendliness, whatever fools women into going for them.

I work with many professional men, academically intelligent, and they're generally royal a$$h o l e s.
Unfriendly, snotty, arrogant.

Not saying the above descriptions are the majority but they definitely come into play.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Originally Posted by DavidRudisha View Post
Ask any woman to describe the type of guy she's attracted to, and inevitably the word "intelligent" will be in the mix. However, I see no evidence of this playing out in real life. Some of the most unintelligent guys I know are able to score high-caliber women, and on the other hand the super intelligent guys I know struggle with women. I know geniuses who can't get a date to save their life.

Profile of the typical guy my age who does well with women:
  • Moderate to good looks
  • Confident (necessarily overconfident, big talker)
  • Showy: lives paycheck-to-paycheck but has a nice apartment, nice car, goes on lots of trips, goes out to a lot of bars/clubs

Profile of the typical intelligent guy my age:
  • Bad to decent looks
  • Unconfident, although he should be confident about (good job, good savings, good health)
  • Has real hobbies
You need to get around a better class of men.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DavidRudisha View Post
Ask any woman to describe the type of guy she's attracted to, and inevitably the word "intelligent" will be in the mix. However, I see no evidence of this playing out in real life. Some of the most unintelligent guys I know are able to score high-caliber women, and on the other hand the super intelligent guys I know struggle with women. I know geniuses who can't get a date to save their life.

Profile of the typical guy my age who does well with women:
  • Moderate to good looks
  • Confident (necessarily overconfident, big talker)
  • Showy: lives paycheck-to-paycheck but has a nice apartment, nice car, goes on lots of trips, goes out to a lot of bars/clubs

Profile of the typical intelligent guy my age:
  • Bad to decent looks
  • Unconfident, although he should be confident about (good job, good savings, good health)
  • Has real hobbies

Well, with all the evidence you have presented, it must be true.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:36 PM
 
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Well, with all the evidence you have presented, it must be true.
Well he certainly doesn't speak from experience that's for sure.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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I never, ever dated stupid men, and I married an extremely intelligent one.
What's his IQ? Is he able to understand abstract concepts? Does he have a vast knowledge base? A good vocabulary? Does he work in a cognitively demanding profession?
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:47 PM
 
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You have no idea how this plays out in real life. All you know is your observations, which are limited to your friends, all of whom (you state) are in your narrow age-range. From your experience, you'd be lead to conclude that intelligent men aren't good-looking, which is ridiculous. And that they don't live paycheck-to-paycheck, which is also not true across the board, or that they're not confident; also not true in the broader view.

Intelligent guys don't have to be good with women. They only have to find the woman for them. And some women search out those guys, and do the approaching. They're looking for guys who are smart, humble/not showy, and stable, steady. So some of those guys have women coming to them, in spite of average or below-average looks.

Reality is tremendously nuanced and varied. It defies pigeon-holing. Hopefully, in another 10 years or so, you'll have enough experience to realize that.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:49 PM
 
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What's his IQ? Is he able to understand abstract concepts?
OP, we're humans, we're not chimpanzees. All of us. Including her SO. Understanding abstract concepts comes with the territory.

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