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Old 08-25-2015, 04:17 AM
 
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If you are indeed that unattractive , make sure you go for girls that are in your "league " otherwise you ARE going to get rejected by them 99% of the time.
Work on your social skills, communication, and keep in the best shape you can.
Good luck and learn how to let the gals see your inner attractiveness
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Old 08-25-2015, 05:35 AM
 
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I was(I think) I still in an almost same condition as you;Pretty tough
Be natural; don't be shy;be confident; the girls are practically the same as you(except for physiology and such) so no reason to be intimidated
They say;The first step is the most difficulty; Get out there practice with any girl you like;don't worry of rejection (it never really kills) it just means keep trying/there is something you did wrong (hygiene/being unnatural and such)
GL
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Ames, Iowa
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If you are indeed that unattractive , make sure you go for girls that are in your "league " otherwise you ARE going to get rejected by them 99% of the time.
This is not good advice in my opinion. You should never think a woman is not for you. I don't care how hot and how wealthy she may be, she is a human being like you are. Obviously, you should have some tact and common sense but you should never think a woman is not "in your league"

A lot of guys that fail to develop their full potential are exactly people with this type of mindset, they think women only go for guys that make x amount of money, who are extremely good looking, etc. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I would say knowing how to attract women, understanding the psychology behind behavior is probably 90% of the game.
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:19 AM
 
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This is not good advice in my opinion. You should never think a woman is not for you. I don't care how hot and how wealthy she may be, she is a human being like you are. Obviously, you should have some tact and common sense but you should never think a woman is not "in your league"

A lot of guys that fail to develop their full potential are exactly people with this type of mindset, they think women only go for guys that make x amount of money, who are extremely good looking, etc. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I would say knowing how to attract women, understanding the psychology behind behavior is probably 90% of the game.
I second this
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Jupiter
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If you are indeed that unattractive , make sure you go for girls that are in your "league " otherwise you ARE going to get rejected by them 99% of the time.
Work on your social skills, communication, and keep in the best shape you can.
Good luck and learn how to let the gals see your inner attractiveness
That is such terrible advice. Men should go after who they like not someone who they think will say yes.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Your face isn't "optimally shaped", and "lacks definition and angularity"? That's your crisis?

OP, You're in highschool, right? Do you participate in any clubs: yearbook, school newspaper, science or tech group? If not, find something to join. Talking to the women you share an activity with will come naturally. As you get used to it, you'll feel more at ease, and that sense of ease will gradually cross over to other arenas, other occasions to talk to women.

And stop fixating on your appearance, and look forward to just relaxing and having fun. If you're relaxed and fun to be around, women will gravitate toward you. This is how some of the dorky kids gets girlfriends, or at least--friends that are girls. They're goofy or fun or creative/imaginative. They have a personality that draws people to them. Which it sounds like you don't have, if you're so self-conscious and wrapped up in yourself and your fears that you can't bring yourself to say "boo" to anyone around you. Or "hi". "Hi" is good. Work on that.
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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Seems fairly obvious, you have received repeated negative feedback from girls when talking to them in social situations.


No, he got approached because he was good looking.


You need Positive Feedback from women, that requires you to make yourself better looking. Alternatively you could become famous. It is probably 10 times easier to make yourself better looking, not that that is easy.

eta: Is that a neurochemical?
Well, the thing is is that my friend is African American, and African American males are perceived by the media as athletic, strong, and genitally well-endowed. Luckily, he has some media/cultural leverage while I on the other hand do not due to the fact that I'm not African American. My friend also wears brand-name clothing and shoes. I however, find formal clothing to be well-suited for myself. I actually haven't had a lot of repetitive negative feedback from females due to the fact that I hardly have any interactions with them. With the few interactions that I do have, I suppose that the feedback was neutral, but I interpreted it as negative due to my pessimistic mindset. In addition, my insecurities about my physical appearance prevent me from confidently initiating conversations with females that I fancy. So in order to make myself better looking, do I have to lose more weight? Currently, I'm 6"0 (72 inches) and weigh 145 pounds ( 66 kg). I guess I could stand to lose some weight; perhaps an ideal would be around 125-132 pounds; maybe lower. I suppose loosing weight could express some angularity in my facial structure. I have a jawline, but if it were more defined, it would make me look somewhat better aesthetically speaking. Most of the exercise I do is cardio, but I guess I could develop lean muscle by doing weights. However, I wouldn't want to be bulky, and muscle-bound like other guys I know. I'd rather be lean and lithe than stocky and muscle-bound.

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Old 08-25-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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Your face isn't "optimally shaped", and "lacks definition and angularity"? That's your crisis?

OP, You're in highschool, right? Do you participate in any clubs: yearbook, school newspaper, science or tech group? If not, find something to join. Talking to the women you share an activity with will come naturally. As you get used to it, you'll feel more at ease, and that sense of ease will gradually cross over to other arenas, other occasions to talk to women.

And stop fixating on your appearance, and look forward to just relaxing and having fun. If you're relaxed and fun to be around, women will gravitate toward you. This is how some of the dorky kids gets girlfriends, or at least--friends that are girls. They're goofy or fun or creative/imaginative. They have a personality that draws people to them. Which it sounds like you don't have, if you're so self-conscious and wrapped up in yourself and your fears that you can't bring yourself to say "boo" to anyone around you. Or "hi". "Hi" is good. Work on that.
Actually, I do participate in robotics. I joined the robotics team to learn more about CAD (Computer Aided Design), Java programming, basic mechanics, electronics, and 3D printing; subjects that I have much interest in. There are girls in the robotics team, so I suppose that can be used as an adequate starting point.
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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Actually, I do participate in robotics. I joined the robotics team to learn more about CAD (Computer Aided Design), Java programming, basic mechanics, electronics, and 3D printing; subjects that I have much interest in. There are girls in the robotics team, so I suppose that can be used as an adequate starting point.
Ya think?

Why are so many younger guys, especially, so obtuse?
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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I don't think the fear ever goes away. I have approached women but the fear is still there. There are many days when I'm at home alone and I ask myself "How are some guys more successful with women and I get rejected constantly?" Being an introvert you wonder these things.
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