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Old 06-10-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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True. Women are attracted to men who are naturally desirable. They don't want men who have to learn to be desirable. And that's precisely what the material teaches: emulating desirability to women.
Lumberjacks, right?

For me I'm just taking care of myself more than most men do. Yes I use skin care products. I want to be the best me I can be. I'm not imitating anything except the best me, only I'm just me.

That reminds me I should go shave even though I plan to be at home all day. It's just a thing to do to look my best all the time. I feel better when I look in the mirror and don't see some unshaven guy.

And I use an abrasive scrub to clean my pores after shaving. I'm experimenting with an expensive face care product after that. Sue me!
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: The Ozone Layer, apparently...
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Hmm...lumberjacks...strong arms...muscular chests...that would work!
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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Lumberjacks, right?
I don't know if this was facetious or not, but the answer isn't easy. Women definitely want dominant, good-looking men, with the selection criteria being very limiting. That is, when it comes to sex. Anything more detailed is against TOS.
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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I think it depends on what a given man and woman bring to the table.

I don't know this for a fact, but I think most women just want an honest man who makes them feel safe. Feeling safe doesn't just mean physical safety, it also refers to not worrying about the guy cheating. The guy is some one they can count on no matter what.

What most men want, besides sex, I don't know. Maybe its not that much different.

But yeah, at least on the surface, a burly lumberjack sounds good about now.
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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True. Women are attracted to men who are naturally desirable. They don't want men who have to learn to be desirable. And that's precisely what the material teaches: emulating desirability to women.

I'm really impressed. Seriously. Not that you should care, but I didn't think you got that.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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As long as you don’t claim exclusivity I don’t see why “plate spinning†would be an issue. I mean maybe you should just think of it as dating a couple people until one bubbles up as the right match.

Yes, you can hyper focus, but some people do not like to do that.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I don't know if this was facetious or not, but the answer isn't easy. Women definitely want dominant, good-looking men, with the selection criteria being very limiting. That is, when it comes to sex. Anything more detailed is against TOS.
Facetious.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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What most men want, besides sex, I don't know. Maybe its not that much different.
Real men want a close relationship with a fulfilling, smart, affectionate woman who equally wants sex, because they don't want to have to keep doing the first date thing over and over and over.

Real men just want to be loved, they want a woman who loves them, and they want a steady supply of sex from a known performing lover.

That's it.

Immature men want all the games and as many women they can get.
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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Real men want a close relationship with a fulfilling, smart, affectionate woman who equally wants sex, because they don't want to have to keep doing the first date thing over and over and over.

Real men just want to be loved, they want a woman who loves them, and they want a steady supply of sex from a known performing lover.
I just want to be left alone in my relationships. That is, enjoy each other's company and what-have-you. But also be free from always asking permission; go to my Meetup events, be it sports, board games, bar trivia, or day trips; and eat the meals of my choice, without anyone's harsh criticism under the pretext of "love" . I will happily extend the same courtesy to my significant other. And of course, stay faithful at all times.

But I also understand that it's just not how it works in relationships, at least in "mature" relationships. So I'm making a cost/benefit decision to stay single, and no plate-spinning, either. Which is easy, since I lost all traces of my sex drive sometime last year.

It's all sadly ironic: We extol the virtue of being left alone by the Feds, yet we allow spouses to govern every minutia of our lives.
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Urbanist, you and I see eye to eye and I am pretty sure we share our world view.

I was speaking about a budding possible new relationship. You are speaking about being in a relationship and the pressures therein.

But the exact same thing applies IN a relationship. For example, if you invite her to join you at a MeetUp and she says no, you will reasonably conclude she doesn't like MeetUp and you will probably not invite her to that again. That is completely logical. If she meant but ask me twice, well that is her problem, not yours. You already asked once.

People have to be careful what they are teaching others they interact with. By saying "no" you are inviting a negative or inhibitory mental state. If you didn't mean "no" then you just shot yourself in your foot. Capiche? (Not you Urban, you get it.)

(Off topic, I'm thinking of starting a MeetUp of my own!)
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