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Old 12-03-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Beautiful New England
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All the rich kids I know around me are depressed, seriously depressed....Has life always been this way for (most) rich kids in history?
Two words: Doris Duke
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:04 PM
 
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I work at a university with a fair amount of overpriveleged kids, and the mindset is amazing. At the end of the year when they go on job interviews for some of them it's unthinkable that they would take a position that pays $25,000 a year (or live in shabby one bedroom apartment or gasp! take the bus.) I want to say, "honey, you're a *philosophy* major. That's a good salary."
What can you do in real life w/ a philosophy major?
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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What can you do in real life w/ a philosophy major?
Why do kids even go to college for a degree like that???
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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A university isn't a trade school. Being a philosophy major can give you skills in reading, debating, writing, researching, etc. that would be invaluable to any job that you're going to have.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:23 PM
 
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Do you really need $50k education to do that?
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:41 PM
 
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I was fortunate to grow up in an area where we had the very rich to the very poor and everything in-between. I think the rich kids and the poor kids benefited from this. Most of the rich kids I knew did not drive the fancy new cars and had to mow their own lawns, etc. Only the sort of upper middle and middle class kids had fancy new cars.

When I got to SMU where a lot of rich folks go to school, I noticed that the better adjusted ones had grown up in smaller towns. The ones who went to homogeneous rich schools seemed to be the most obnoxious.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:02 AM
 
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Who is "everyone", and how are you measuring their concern?

Every individual cares about themselves, or the group they are a part of. The poor complain that they are forgotten (by this elusive "everyone.") The middle class complains that the poor get handouts, the rich exploit loopholes, and the middle class gets screwed (by everyone). The rich complain that "everyone" is jealous, and out to tax the rich.

I think it is all just a bunch of self-centered nonsense. There is no monolithic "everyone" who has decision-making power.
This is just nonsense - the type of trype that is regularly peddled by Fox Snooze. For instance, having effective schools for the poor who want an education will pay massive dividends in so many areas, but the right wing racist trash would rather keep the status quo. Other countries get this right and have far lower poverty and crime.

And yes, Americans worship the ground that wealthy layabouts walk on.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:41 AM
 
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The wealthy pay the majority of income taxes that the federal government collects. The poor do not pay federal income tax (or very little of it) and they get boatloads of free stuff. Ever hear of Medicaid, food stamps, grants for college, public-subsidized housing, free public K-12 education, etc..?

A poor mother who spit out three kids probably gets over $50,000 a year in free stuff. I wish I got $50,000 a year in free stuff.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:45 AM
 
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My parents had really good friends who had made it big. Their kids were total freaking BRATS. They spoke to their parents as if they were the hired help, yet they wanted for nothing.

The son, who was a year younger than me, made perfect grades and was accepted to Yale--the kid's ambition throughout high school. So the proud parents opened their checkbooks and paid for five years at Yale. About $250,000 worth of education. And, all this time, my parents kept saying to me, "Robert's going to Yale. Wouldn't you have liked to go to Yale? Yale this, Yale that, blah blah Yale blah blah Yale blah." As if they could have afforded Yale for me. Hell, I paid my own freight through college. There was a recession on.

So what does the kid do? He became a shepherd in New Mexico. No lie. A freaking shepherd. A glorified farm hand. And he still is, 25 years later. Funny how my mom stopped talking about Robert going to Yale after the kid dropped that bomb on the folks.

Hey, nothing wrong with herding sheep. Nothing wrong with working on a farm. But to do this after your parents ponied up a quarter-million to fulfill your ambition to attend Yale borders on unspeakable. He could have gone to community college and saved them, say, $240,000.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:49 AM
 
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This is just nonsense - the type of trype that is regularly peddled by Fox Snooze. For instance, having effective schools for the poor who want an education will pay massive dividends in so many areas, but the right wing racist trash would rather keep the status quo. Other countries get this right and have far lower poverty and crime.

And yes, Americans worship the ground that wealthy layabouts walk on.
Education in this country is incredibly well-funded. The schools are ineffective because of the corruption of local school boards and the unwillingness of parents to get involved.
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