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Old 12-15-2009, 05:13 PM
 
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Sure, they exercised poor judgement, but losers? I read only one article by a woman, who is a grandma, and she reminded me of my mother - naive as all hell; willing to help anybody, and vulnerable to 'love at first sight' bologna. Assuming the best in people does not constitute a loser. If you think you're going to manage your whole life without getting screwed from time-to-time, life will show you differently. You can count on it. That won't make you a loser.
How else would anyone describe these people?...supposedly this disgusting man was someone's son..that doesnt matter, he was evil, sleazy and mean spirited. Not implying that your mother is to be categorized with these women, but these women were plain stupid, irresponsible and sleazy. And although I dont think I will get through life without getting screwed, when I choose to place myself in position that could result in me getting screwed, I wont play the victim card.

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They are victims. He attempted to kill them. Opening your heart to love, to another human, and then having them attempt to hurt you does not imply they should be held responsible for his actions. They are, but they shouldn't have to. The assertion is ridiculous.

If they are victims of anything it is there own negligence. Or perhaps they were complicit in their own victimization, but they certainly arent being held responsible for anything that they didnt cause themselves.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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How else would anyone describe these people?...supposedly this disgusting man was someone's son..that doesnt matter, he was evil, sleazy and mean spirited. Not implying that your mother is to be categorized with these women, but these women were plain stupid, irresponsible and sleazy. And although I dont think I will get through life without getting screwed,
You need to invest in a dictionary. Maybe English isn't your first language. Entering into a monogomous relationship for 1 yr, 4 yrs, etc does not constitute sleazy.

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when I choose to place myself in position that could result in me getting screwed, I wont play the victim card.
That's pretty funny. You're crying victim in the abortion thread to the nth degree where there aren't actual male victims. The issue here, solitaire, is with women. It doesn't matter if it's the virgin Mary or Mary M. Of this, I have no doubt.

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If they are victims of anything it is there own negligence. Or perhaps they were complicit in their own victimization, but they certainly arent being held responsible for anything that they didnt cause themselves.
Again, get a dictionary. If someone tries to kill you, you're a victim. It's not that complicated to grasp.


And now, I'm giving my MIL a shout out for raising a son that doesn't have women issues.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:41 PM
 
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You need to invest in a dictionary. Maybe English isn't your first language. Entering into a monogomous relationship for 1 yr, 4 yrs, etc does not constitute sleazy.
obviously they werent in a monogamous relationship...and they admittedly "quickly became serious" so thats sleazy in my opinion

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That's pretty funny. You're crying victim in the abortion thread to the nth degree where there aren't actual male victims. The issue here, solitaire, is with women. It doesn't matter if it's the virgin Mary or Mary M. Of this, I have no doubt.
IDK, maybe so...maybe I hate women, maybe I love them..doesnt really matter imo. I call em like I see em and these people were sleazy losers to me...

And just for the record, in the other thread, you've never seen me say that men are victims of anyone...go check. I said men should have rights too, independent of any aggressor or second party. But the other thread isnt even about myself..its about equal rights for parents...Im not a victim of parenthood fortunately..lol

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Again, get a dictionary. If someone tries to kill you, you're a victim. It's not that complicated to grasp.
You're only a victim if you try to defend yourself...these women didnt try to defend themselves, so they were complicit in their misfortune.

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And now, I'm giving my MIL a shout out for raising a son that doesn't have women issues.
Yeah, definitely....I wanna give a shout out to your MIL too...Good job maam...lol, you raised a real winner.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:04 PM
 
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obviously they werent in a monogamous relationship...and they admittedly "quickly became serious" so thats sleazy in my opinion
That's insane. People date a few weeks and enter into monogamous relationships. Heck, some folk marry after a few months. You've never heard of "head over heels" "love at first sight" etc? This stuff is generations old. People do get serious way too quick. These women are talking about years. If that's what you consider sleazy, I don't know what to tell you.

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IDK, maybe so...maybe I hate women, maybe I love them..doesnt really matter imo. I call em like I see em and these people were sleazy losers to me...
Spot it, you got it. We always see our own flaws in others. This is nothing new either. You don't think people see this? It's so transparent. Take it to your therapist. Dishing it out about people you don't even know is assinine.

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And just for the record, in the other thread, you've never seen me say that men are victims of anyone...go check. I said men should have rights too, independent of any aggressor or second party. But the other thread isnt even about myself..its about equal rights for parents...Im not a victim of parenthood fortunately..lol
You're grand standing is to skirt responsibility and then you come here and talk out of the other side of your mouth.

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You're only a victim if you try to defend yourself...these women didnt try to defend themselves, so they were complicit in their misfortune.
So, you're telling me that if you're out dinner, and someone robs your car without your knowledge, you're not a vitim of car theft because you didn't do anything about it? These women were lied to. Do you really think they would have been in a relationship with a man that had HIV and had unprotected sex? Is that what you're proporting? It is, and it's wrong/silly/etc.

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Yeah, definitely....I wanna give a shout out to your MIL too...Good job maam...lol, you raised a real winner.
Yea, a man that doesn't have mommy and women issues. It's a rare thing on this forum. Hopefully, your attitudes will keep you from breeding.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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That's insane. People date a few weeks and enter into monogamous relationships. Heck, some folk marry after a few months. You've never heard of "head over heels" "love at first sight" etc? This stuff is generations old. People do get serious way too quick. These women are talking about years. If that's what you consider sleazy, I don't know what to tell you.
I know you dont know what to tell me..What this man and this women did was sleazy...You cant tell me nothing ...


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Spot it, you got it. We always see our own flaws in others. This is nothing new either. You don't think people see this? It's so transparent.Take it to your therapist. Dishing it out about people you don't even know is assinine.
Like you do?..spot it Im NOT it!...lol thats all you do is insult people online..I see why gwynedd called you rude as hell..lol...you hurl insults more than anyone Ive ever seen on here, yet you call me immature....Even those whom Ive disagreed with have more civil discussions with me than you are capable of.. and yet you try to say that Im immature?..psshhh..lol

BTW, I dont really care what people see on CD...thats their problem not mine.

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You're grand standing is to skirt responsibility and then you come here and talk out of the other side of your mouth.

What grand standing?..oh Im sorry that was supposed to be a catchphrase that you have no evidence to support..anyway, if you dont like it you can always ignore it..or you can address me and keep getting offended..your call, doesnt matter.

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So, you're telling me that if you're out dinner, and someone robs your car without your knowledge, you're not a vitim of car theft because you didn't do anything about it? These women were lied to. Do you really think they would have been in a relationship with a man that had HIV and had unprotected sex? Is that what you're proporting? It is, and it's wrong/silly/etc.
of course Im a victim of car theft if I locked my doors...but if I opened my doors, left my windows down and left my keys in the ignition, and walked off, I have essentially given my car away.


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Yea, a man that doesn't have mommy and women issues. It's a rare thing on this forum. Hopefully, your attitudes will keep you from breeding.
They might you never know...they might or they might not.....lol hopefully one day the old kiddos can wreak as much havoc as their pops.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:56 PM
 
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Solytare, you are confusing the issue. The fact that these women let down their guard , does not make them responsible for someone wanting to kill them.

Its like you walking alone at night in what you think is a relatively safe part of town. Suddenly some guys come out of the corner and you know you made a mistake by walking there, but you didn't sign up for getting killed. Maybe you were dumb enough to get robbed, and that would be your fault, maybe. But not killed. That's the difference.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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Solytare, you are confusing the issue. The fact that these women let down their guard , does not make them responsible for someone wanting to kill them.

Its like you walking alone at night in what you think is a relatively safe part of town. Suddenly some guys come out of the corner and you know you made a mistake by walking there, but you didn't sign up for getting killed. Maybe you were dumb enough to get robbed, and that would be your fault, maybe. But not killed. That's the difference.
This is true, and I understand your point..but if I am walking down the street at night throwing money and jewelry in the air, with no protection, despite the fact I have a perfectly functioning car, with gas, or if I refused an offer to be escorted -- then getting robbed would definitely be partially my fault. Thats the way I see it at least.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:23 PM
 
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I know you dont know what to tell me..What this man and this women did was sleazy...You cant tell me nothing ...
So, is this a religious thing for you? Sex outside marriage?

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Like you do? ..spot it Im NOT it!...lol thats all you do is insult people online..I see why gwynedd called you rude as hell..lol...you hurl insults more than anyone Ive ever seen on here, yet you call me immature....Even those whom Ive disagreed with have more civil discussions with me than you are capable of.. and yet you try to say that Im immature?..psshhh..lol
Oh, please with the drama. You call a bunch of old ladies sluts and sleazy because you have mommy or whatever frigging issues. Your insults and arguments are assinine. Your issues with women follow you through out the board and no doubt your life (fortunately for all). Your grandma trashing is lame. That's what your cr*p in this thread amounts to.

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BTW, I dont really care what people see on CD...thats their problem not mine.
What I love about people like you on the net is that your problems are yours off line. It's sweet justice.

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What grand standing?..oh Im sorry that was supposed to be a catchphrase that you have no evidence to support..anyway, if you dont like it you can always ignore it..or you can address me and keep getting offended..your call, doesnt matter.
Your whining about men not having to take any resonsibility. Frankly, I don't know why the lot of you bother with women at all.

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of course Im a victim of car theft if I locked my doors...but if I opened my doors, left my windows down and left my keys in the ignition, and walked off, I have essentially given my car away.
It would still be a theft, but even so, as I stated, these women were lied to. They were not informed this guy has HIV. Are you saying you would not feel thwarted if some woman with HIV neglected to tell you and you got HIV? What a load of bull.

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They might you never know...they might or they might not.....lol hopefully one day the old kiddos can wreak as much havoc as their pops.
Indeed, as I've come to realize in this thread, the apple certainly doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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This is true, and I understand your point..but if I am walking down the street at night throwing money and jewelry in the air, with no protection, despite the fact I have a perfectly functioning car, with gas, or if I refused an offer to be escorted -- then getting robbed would definitely be partially my fault. Thats the way I see it at least.

Getting robbed would be your fault, partially. Yes. But not getting killed. These women might of known they could get an STD.One where they could go to a doctor and get a prescription to have it removed. But since there was an element of trust involved, they had no way of knowing that the man they were dating would kill them.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:37 PM
 
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So, is this a religious thing for you? Sex outside marriage?
Of course its not a religious thing...I just think it was dumb and sleazy. And I include Phillipe in that judgment.

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Oh, please with the drama. You call a bunch of old ladies sluts and sleazy because you have mommy or whatever frigging issues. Your insults and arguments are assinine. Your issues with women follow you through out the board and no doubt your life (fortunately for all). Your grandma trashing is lame. That's what your cr*p in this thread amounts to.
aww..Was I supposed to care that you think I hate women?...lol you = fail.

Anyway, I never said I had a problem with name calling..you did..lol..you are the one that attacked me for name calling...I was just pointing out your own foolish contradiction...as you can see, no one takes you seriously..or at least I dont

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What I love about people like you on the net is that your problems are yours off line. It's sweet justice.
Yes they are...few as they may be!

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Your whining about men not having to take any resonsibility. Frankly, I don't know why the lot of you bother with women at all.
Aww..you getting tired of my complaining?...cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.....as I proceed...I hate women!! gggrrrr!!! lol



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It would still be a theft, but even so, as I stated, these women were lied to. They were not informed this guy has HIV. Are you saying you would not feel thwarted if some woman with HIV neglected to tell you and you got HIV? What a load of bull.
No Im not saying I wouldnt feel thwarted. I have said numerous times that these sleazy tramps didnt deserve to catch HIV from this sleazeball..why isnt anyone acknowledging that Im not saying they deserved to catch a deadly disease?..

Im saying that they partially have their own trampy, negligent behavior to blame for it happening...not that "it serves them right" or they shouldnt be upset about it. They should be upset at him, but they should also be more upset at themselves.


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Indeed, as I've come to realize in this thread, the apple certainly doesn't fall far from the tree.
Sure doesnt, which is why youve got to be selective in which apples you pick up! mmmmm @ apples!
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