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Old 07-05-2010, 10:10 AM
 
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Fresh outlook and observations for this morning:

1) Consider the source. (both from nutball websites that lack any credibility, and stuff from the guy who reliably posts them, but who has a proven history of prevariacation or wild-a$$ cah-schmoozling [a highly technical term for BSing...]

2) Formal Education Be Damned! I guess I'll just rip up my advanced geology certification from Univ. of Kentucky and my other several degrees, and ask Tom to mail me one or two from his personal basement supply.

Obviously, as Sgt. Schultz* used to say:

"I know nuuuu-think!"

Cutting edge, schmutting edge
, Tom. You believe what you need to my boy. I'll stick with evidentiary truth. And common sense. Oh yeah; that, huh?
____________________

*Hogan's Heros, for the younger set.....

 
Old 07-05-2010, 11:24 AM
 
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2) Formal Education Be Damned! I guess I'll just rip up my advanced geology certification from Univ. of Kentucky and my other several degrees, and ask Tom to mail me one or two from his personal basement supply.

Absolutely. Tear all those worthless certificates into confetti. Here's the only thing you'll ever need. Just print yerself out a free copy, hang it on yer wall, and yer good to go. You'll wow your family and friends, and be the envy of all yer neighbors with yer honest-to-goodness genuine PROOF of yer new expertise.

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Old 07-05-2010, 12:18 PM
 
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They musta set the printer's "Multiple Copies?" question to "1000" for the NAMI crowd, huh?
 
Old 07-05-2010, 09:53 PM
 
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A link from a site that holds seminars at the creation museum in Glen Rose?LMAO!!


How appropriate.A creationist group holding lectures at a proven hoax site.





Well here is a link from earlhamcollege. Physical Geology 2005.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE WOOD TO PETRIFY?

(IN THE PAST) IT WAS WIDELY ACCEPTED THAT THE PROCESS OF PETRIFACTION TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS.) To day it has been suggested that like most gelolgical phenomena, the actual process of petrifaction (HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME AVAILABLE, BUT INSTEAD THE CONDITIONS.) Under ideal chemical conditions, petrifaction is possible (IN A FEW HUNDRED YEARS.)

Link to earlhamcollege.

Earlham College - Geology 211 - petwood (http://www.earlham.edu/~tinkeem/web/petwood.htm - broken link)

Science is coming up to speed on the time it takes for wood to petrify.
Are you still living in the past?
 
Old 07-05-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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Fresh outlook and observations for this morning:

1) Consider the source. (both from nutball websites that lack any credibility, and stuff from the guy who reliably posts them, but who has a proven history of prevariacation or wild-a$$ cah-schmoozling [a highly technical term for BSing...]

2) Formal Education Be Damned! I guess I'll just rip up my advanced geology certification from Univ. of Kentucky and my other several degrees, and ask Tom to mail me one or two from his personal basement supply.

Obviously, as Sgt. Schultz* used to say:

"I know nuuuu-think!"

Cutting edge, schmutting edge, Tom. You believe what you need to my boy. I'll stick with evidentiary truth. And common sense. Oh yeah; that, huh?
____________________

*Hogan's Heros, for the younger set.....





Well riflemen, earlhamcollege states, (THAT IN THE PAST IT WAS WIDELY ACCEPTED THAT THE PROCESS OF PETRIFACTION TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS.)

(TODAY) IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT LIKE MOST GEOLOGICAL PHENOMENA, THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF PETRIFACTION HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME AVAILABLE, BUT INSTEAD THE CONDITIONS.

UNDER IDEAL CHEMICAL CONDITIONS, PETRIFACTION IS POSSIBLE (IN A FEW HUNDRED YEARS). Consider the link below.

Earlham College - Geology 211 - petwood (http://www.earlham.edu/~tinkeem/web/petwood.htm - broken link)


Of course we know the speed of petrifaction can be that fast, because of historical examples. Such as the chaple of Saint Maria of Health, which was built in 1630 In Venice, Italy. The chapel was constructed on 180,000 wooden pilings to reinforce it's foundation. Of course after 300 years one would of thought those wooden pilings would need to be replaced. However, it was discovered that such replacement would not be necessary, and that is because all 180,000 pilings, have now petrified. And the chapel now rest on (STONE PILINGS).

Only those who want to live in the past, would still claim that it requires millions of years for wood to petrify riflemen. And those who could ignore such examples, perhaps do so in order to push another false belief.
 
Old 07-05-2010, 10:48 PM
 
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Well here is a link from earlhamcollege. Physical Geology 2005.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE WOOD TO PETRIFY?

(IN THE PAST) IT WAS WIDELY ACCEPTED THAT THE PROCESS OF PETRIFACTION TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS.) To day it has been suggested that like most gelolgical phenomena, the actual process of petrifaction (HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME AVAILABLE, BUT INSTEAD THE CONDITIONS.) Under ideal chemical conditions, petrifaction is possible (IN A FEW HUNDRED YEARS.)

Link to earlhamcollege.

Earlham College - Geology 211 - petwood (http://www.earlham.edu/~tinkeem/web/petwood.htm - broken link)

Science is coming up to speed on the time it takes for wood to petrify.
Are you still living in the past?

Under ideal chemical conditions. Hmm. Are you saying that a volcano would have the "ideal chemical conditions" to petrify the wood of a boat perched near the top of it? BTW, what are those ideal chemical conditions?

It's interesting that the vast majority of links you provide are those with religious affiliations. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but can't you find any links from any secular colleges or universities?
Earlham College Mission Statement (http://www.earlham.edu/mission.html - broken link)
 
Old 07-05-2010, 10:55 PM
 
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Watch the NAMI video again Campbell, and listen when they knock on the wood....It is NOT petrified.

Here is the real NAMI site... NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness - Mental Health Support, Education and Advocacy
 
Old 07-06-2010, 01:00 AM
 
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Watch the NAMI video again Campbell, and listen when they knock on the wood....It is NOT petrified.

Here is the real NAMI site... NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness - Mental Health Support, Education and Advocacy



As I have stated before sanspeur. The Ark is broken up into, two, or three sections. Not all the sections may be petrified, and there may be sections that are only partially petrified. Such a case of partially petrified wood is spoken of by the poster below.

Re: Re: Re: Re: I have a partially petrified chunk of wood by John on 12/18/2001
 
Old 07-06-2010, 01:11 AM
 
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Under ideal chemical conditions. Hmm. Are you saying that a volcano would have the "ideal chemical conditions" to petrify the wood of a boat perched near the top of it? BTW, what are those ideal chemical conditions?

It's interesting that the vast majority of links you provide are those with religious affiliations. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but can't you find any links from any secular colleges or universities?
Earlham College Mission Statement (http://www.earlham.edu/mission.html - broken link)




According to WikiAnswers. Wood can be petrified in a matter of days or weeks given the right chemical "coctail". And such a mix of chemicals are often found in areas of volcanic activity.

WikiAnswers - How long does it take to petrify wood
 
Old 07-06-2010, 02:08 AM
 
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You are going to have to do better than WikiAnswers. Any wood on ararat would have burned up long ago.
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