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The Pentagon under the Obama Administration has just acknowledged seizing and burning the privately owned Bibles of American soldiers serving in Afghanistan. The Bibles had been printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages, and sent by private donors to American Christian soldiers and chaplains, for distribution to American troops on overseas military bases during optionally-attended Christian worship services. Had the Bibles not been seized and destroyed, they could have legally been given as gifts during off-duty time to Afghani citizens who welcome our troops in their homes, as an expression of American gratitude for Afghani hospitality, promoting the democratic ideals of freedom of religion and freedom of the press.
Jesus gave us instructions..... inciting hatred was not among them, be it from either side of the coin!!! Hate is hate! Division is division, different means to the same end, to kill and destroy!! Unfortunately, it's just the beginning......
Praying for strength to bring some through......
Betsey
Betsey...perhaps you should spend more time getting your facts straight than posting Moderator cut: deleted that does nothing but make you and your fellow Christians look really BAD.
From that link is a perfect example of why the government did what it did....so it wouldn't look like this
"GENERAL DOUGLAS MACARTHUR ENCOURAGED EVANGELISM
"After World War II, in order to carry out the democratization of Japan, Five-Star General Of The Army Douglas MacArthur brought Christian leaders to the country to meet with Emperor Hirohito and encouraged mass distribution of Bibles to the population. MacArthur later stated to a visiting American churchman, "We must have ten thousand Christian missionaries and a million Bibles to complete the occupation of this land." (Source: Rodger R. Venzke, Confidence In Battle - Inspiration In Peace, 1977, p.24-25.)
This was a great plan. Obviously it didn't work since only about 1% of Japanese are Christians today. Replacing an aggressive ideology (Shinto) with a peaceful ideology is always to be encouraged in conquered countries.
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Originally Posted by ptsum
you seem to be ignorant of one thing, we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights that guarantees those people the right to build that mosque where ever they please, just the same as you Christians can build your churches wherever you want.
A Greek church destroyed in the 9/11 attacks was denied a permit to rebuild. New York is bending over backwards to accommodate the Muslims but Christians not so much.
As for the constitutionality of blocking the ground zero victory mega-mosque it could be done by declaring the damaged Burlington Coat Factory a national monument. The US Supreme court has already ruled that public buildings can be taken with eminent domain both for public use and even to be turned over to another private company (which I don't agree with. Thanks Souter).
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Originally Posted by catman
Since the Bibles were printed in the local languages, that indicates that they were meant to be distributed to the local population. Our troops there have enough problems without proselytizing and incurring local resentment for doing so. Believe it or not, that isn't why the troops are there.
The strategy for our victory is clear: Invade their lands, kill their leaders, and convert them from Islam to Christianity. Unfortunately we are not doing the last step and have even allowed them to enshrine Sharia Islamic law into their constitution so Afghanistan will never be terrorist free. We must change their constitution and purge it of all its Sharia elements before peace will ever be established in Afghanistan.
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Originally Posted by Asheville Native
Cause most everyone recognizes that our troops should not be handing out christian propaganda.
They should not have been printed in these languages, and they should not have been shipped to Afghanistan and this is the most expedient way to deal with the situation. It is not an act of hatred, just common sense
Proselytizing to a Muslim is punishable by death in Islam. Think about that for a moment. What other religion is so weak and fearful of its members realizing what a big lie it is that it has to threaten death for anyone preaching to one of its members? Also, leaving Islam is punishable with death, as commanded by Mohammad himself. These soldiers knew the risks they were taking and they should be commended for following their religious duty. “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19). If an American soldier who was a Muslim tried to hand out a Qur’an to someone in a non-Muslim country you can be sure that no American administration would dare take it and burn it. Once again, Christians are easy targets of the left.
Why no outcry? Because the Bibles, which were intended to be unlawfully distributed by military personnel, were destroyed to dispose of them, not publicly in order to offend.
You'd know that if you didn't gullibly swallow the drivel fed to you in the silly blog you linked.
Which brings us to the lack of outcry when this happened and when the news broke. It happened under Bush. Thus, no outrage from the fawning sycophants who refuse to utter a word of disparagement against the Bush Administration.
The Pentagon under the Obama Administration has just acknowledged seizing and burning the privately owned Bibles of American soldiers serving in Afghanistan. The Bibles had been printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages, and sent by private donors to American Christian soldiers and chaplains, for distribution to American troops on overseas military bases during optionally-attended Christian worship services. Had the Bibles not been seized and destroyed, they could have legally been given as gifts during off-duty time to Afghani citizens who welcome our troops in their homes, as an expression of American gratitude for Afghani hospitality, promoting the democratic ideals of freedom of religion and freedom of the press.
Jesus gave us instructions..... inciting hatred was not among them, be it from either side of the coin!!! Hate is hate! Division is division, different means to the same end, to kill and destroy!! Unfortunately, it's just the beginning......
Praying for strength to bring some through......
Betsey
WTH???
Tell me the truth, do you actually believe this or just like posting lies?
Proselytizing to a Muslim is punishable by death in Islam. Think about that for a moment. What other religion is so weak and fearful of its members realizing what a big lie it is that it has to threaten death for anyone preaching to one of its members? Also, leaving Islam is punishable with death, as commanded by Mohammad himself. These soldiers knew the risks they were taking and they should be commended for following their religious duty. “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19). If an American soldier who was a Muslim tried to hand out a Qur’an to someone in a non-Muslim country you can be sure that no American administration would dare take it and burn it. Once again, Christians are easy targets of the left.
So if a proselytizing soldier managed to convert a Muslim, that Muslim may very well be executed? Sounds like the soldier is putting more than his own life at risk.
Funny how certain people could care less when Bibles are burned...
But a Koran.......now that is an outrage.
Nice to know that one need not be a Christian to be a hypocrite.
Why should we care if bibles are burned? Do you treat the bible as an idol? It doesn't ultimately matter how you dispose of a bible since the copy you own is not sacred in any way. Christianity does not place any importance on the mass produced copies of their holy text, whereas other religions such as Islam do.
"Question: "What is the proper way to dispose of a ruined Bible?"
Answer: There is no "biblical" way to dispose of an old/damaged/ruined Bible, as the Bible itself does not address this question. It is, therefore, a matter of personal conviction. It is important to understand that it is not the paper, binding, and ink that are "sacred" or "holy." It is the Word of God that is holy, not the material it is printed on. We are not to worship or idolize the Bible. The purpose of the Bible is to teach us about Jesus the Savior and the salvation He provides and to point us to worship Him with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. The paper and ink of a Bible are merely the means through which God communicates His Word to us.
It would seem, though, that throwing away a Bible would have to be the absolute last resort. Many old Bibles, if rebound, would be "as good as new" and could then continue to be used or given to someone else to use. Even an old/tattered Bible, given to someone who does not have a Bible, can be a tremendous blessing. Some people keep old Bibles as family heirlooms to remind future generations of how committed to God's Word their ancestors were. There are many such options and all are worth prayerfully considering.
Ultimately, if a Bible is genuinely damaged to the point of being unusable, it can be discarded. In no sense will discarding a Bible invite God's displeasure. Some prefer to burn a Bible rather than placing it in the garbage. Neither method is right or wrong. There is a story of a person who threw a Bible out with the trash. A garbage collector saw the Bible and removed it from the trash, began to read it, and placed his faith in Jesus Christ as Savior. God can use His powerful Word (Isaiah 55:11; Hebrews 4:12) to testify of Him, even from the pages of a Bible that has been discarded."
Funny how certain people could care less when Bibles are burned...
But a Koran.......now that is an outrage.
Nice to know that one need not be a Christian to be a hypocrite.
Perhaps, instead of burning the Quran, the National Endowment for
the Arts and taxpayers, could fund a "Pizz Mohammad" in the name
of artistic freedom.
We could observe whether the Religion of Peace would tolerate
what Christians endured when "Pizz Christ" was a "Visual Arts"
award winner.
The Pentagon under the Obama Administration has just acknowledged seizing and burning the privately owned Bibles of American soldiers serving in Afghanistan. The Bibles had been printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages, and sent by private donors to American Christian soldiers and chaplains, for distribution to American troops on overseas military bases during optionally-attended Christian worship services. Had the Bibles not been seized and destroyed, they could have legally been given as gifts during off-duty time to Afghani citizens who welcome our troops in their homes, as an expression of American gratitude for Afghani hospitality, promoting the democratic ideals of freedom of religion and freedom of the press.
Jesus gave us instructions..... inciting hatred was not among them, be it from either side of the coin!!! Hate is hate! Division is division, different means to the same end, to kill and destroy!! Unfortunately, it's just the beginning......
Praying for strength to bring some through......
Betsey
Disclaimer: The views of Chaplain Klingenschmitt, who was honorably but involuntarily discharged from the Navy in 2007 after facing court-martial for praying "in Jesus name" in uniform, (but was later vindicated by Congress), are his own personal views.
lol....
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