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The wars of the last 100 years are a crusade of the enlightenment. Some wars like WWII were internal wars with different sects trying to gain control. The middle east wars are more of a crusade to spread control to a new part of the world. You can see the western enlightenment victory in Japan by the Japanese obsession with all things western. Some people blame Christianity for these wars but Jesus' church in Rome is innocent in this matter.
This is a crusade to spread the religion of enlightened materialism/individualism. This religion is the ultimate control mechanism. That is why the Church has been attacked for the last two centuries. Now that Jesus' Church has been marginalized in this ideological war it is time to rid the world of Islam so the same people controlling the US can expand their sphere of influence to the mid-east. The goal is world wide domination. Not only are there vast populations to control but there are vast resources to gain.
Let me try to explain this in a few paragraphs. The primary weapon in this war is a program of sexual liberation and political control by vice. Ideological subversion is the real weapon of war.
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The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
They are confident that as soon as people are exposed to the "good cop" of sexual liberation/materialism (porn, masturbation, excessive consumption of media/goods) these people will not want any part of the "bad cop" devotion to God, love of family, personal restraint and virtue associated with classical religion. This enlightened religion wins its converts the same way a pimp "turns out" his hookers. They are turned out by vice. The converts don't even realize they are converted but the void created by a lack of a classic religion is filled by a materialistic/individualistic focus on self.
Once the vices of deviant sex and consumption are accepted as part of the self the individual will fight to hold on to these vices like they are actually part of the person. At this point the convert to the "enlightened" religion will act contrary to their own interests. They will continue to spend when they are in debt and they will continue to consume some substance even as it is killing them. They will continue to have degenerate sex even though they are controcepting/aborting themselves into demographic history.
This is why the western culture has such huge issues with drugs and debt. People are acting contrary to their own and their family's best interest as their lives are controlled by vice. Vice and degenerate sex is the foundation of the system that maintains political control and keeps people acquiesced. These wars are all about spreading this population control apparatus all over the world.
Your only protection from this monster is the moral law as written on your heart. Your only protection is to bring God into your heart and hold close what is true.
Your only protection from this monster is the moral law as written on your heart. Your only protection is to bring God into your heart and hold close what is true.
Too bad for you that you're such a repressed prude. Personally, I love sex and plan to have as much of it with my man as I can, until I die.
Although I don't exactly agree with the post I agree that ideas from the enlightenment, or based in enlightened self-interest, certainly have justified violence and war and repression. The French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars being the earliest example, Communism may or may not fit as a more recent one.
I'm skeptical any ideological system is free from the potential for abuse. An answer for some seems to be to have no ideologies at all, but this is not really practical or desirable. Being a somewhat "conservative", in the classic sense, individual I think some level of suffering and abuse will always exist because of humanity's flawed nature.
Then why are so many unenlightened to the clear and present danger that religions are the greatest threat to our future?
Well I think your statement being untrue and bordering on delusional paranoia is a good explanation of why.
There's really no sane way you can make religions the greatest threat to our future. There are only a few nations ran as religion-states left and they are all poor or very small nations that might not be a threat to anyone outside their neighborhood.
In any reasonable sense deforestation, declines of natural resources (water, oil, helium, certain minerals), ethnic nationalism, government corruption, and maybe even sex-selective abortion are greater threats to the future than religion.
Well I think your statement being untrue and bordering on delusional paranoia is a good explanation of why.
There's really no sane way you can make religions the greatest threat to our future. There are only a few nations ran as religion-states left and they are all poor or very small nations that might not be a threat to anyone outside their neighborhood.
In any reasonable sense deforestation, declines of natural resources (water, oil, helium, certain minerals), ethnic nationalism, government corruption, and maybe even sex-selective abortion are greater threats to the future than religion.
Granted, many of the issues you listed in the last paragraph pose a threat to peace, and are not based on religion. But if a country wants the resources of another country, they are not going to turn it into an uninhabitable waste land to obtain it.
Some 'ethnic' nationalism is in fact religious base, some is not, example the different waring factions in Iraq under Saddam. But either way, the ethnic conflicts will be local or regional at best.
But the killing simply to kill out of hatred is primarily religious based, and are global in scope, i.e. primarily us, but a number of mostly christian nations have forces occupying islamic countries, pretty much drawing the line between the christian world and the islamic world. Yea, this is the greatest threat, conflict wise, to the future of our civilization, and religion is the catalyst.
Completely off base, wrong and not based in truth. All of the major genocides of the 20th century and this century are all based in enlightenment philosophy. Where are the religious genocides that can even approach the numbers of the enlightenment genocides? Make no mistake it was the Catholic Church that introduced Just War to the world 18 centuries ago. It was the enlightenment that brought genocide, the atomic bomb and population control via ideological subversion back to the world.
Karl Marx Socialism- 23 million dead in Communist purges of those resisting this form of social control. Many religious clergy slaughtered at the alter of socialism.
Karl Marx Socialism in Mao Ze Dong China - 78,000,000 dead in various ethnic cleansing and purses of those dissenting socialist rule.
WII - 48 million dead in battle between enlightenment philosophy governments. Nazi/Nippon Darwinist regime battles Soviet/British/American socialists for control of post-Christian Western world- 48 million dead.
Enlightenment philosophy and the crusades to spread it are the greatest threat to man. Whether it is right wing Darwinist thought looking to slaughter people to achieve a "master race" or left wing socialist regimes looking to ideologically subvert a population to monopolize wealth both forms are the greatest threat to mankind. The atomic bomb grew out of the moral relativism of the enlightenment.
Make no mistake the current wars in the middle east are a crusade to spread enlightenment social control to that part of the world. The people dieing over there and not part of a Christian crusade. We build McDonald's and broadcast towers not Churches after the bombs do their job.
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Originally Posted by Asheville Native
But the killing simply to kill out of hatred is primarily religious based, and are global in scope, i.e. primarily us, but a number of mostly christian nations have forces occupying islamic countries, pretty much drawing the line between the christian world and the islamic world. Yea, this is the greatest threat, conflict wise, to the future of our civilization, and religion is the catalyst.
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