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I am asking them to prove evidence that supports their belief that God does not exist. To believe something without verifyable evidence is.....dare I say it....called faith.
But see it goes back to that they DON'T believe in something. So, you are saying they have faith in something they don't believe? That is a massive contradiction.
But see it goes back to that they DON'T believe in something. So, you are saying they have faith in something they don't believe? That is a massive contradiction.
One of them esoteric conundrums, if ya get my drift.
I am asking them to prove evidence that supports their belief that God does not exist. To believe something without verifyable evidence is.....dare I say it....called faith.
Your thinking is illogical but lets looks at some definitions of faith, which is the foundation for all religious beliefs. These are some quotes by some of the greatest minds to walk this earth.
If you have a faith, it is statistically overwhelmingly likely that it is the same faith as your parents and grandparents had. No doubt soaring cathedrals, stirring music, moving stories and parables, help a bit. But by far the most important variable determining your religion is the accident of birth. The convictions that you so passionately believe would have been a completely different and largely contradictory set of convictions, if only you had happened to be born in a different place. Epidemiology, not evidence. ~ Richard Dawkins
To those searching for truth -- not the truth of dogma and darkness but the truth brought by reason, search, examination, and inquiry, discipline is required. For faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on facts, not fiction -- faith in fiction is a damnable false hope. ~ Thomas Edison
"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated" ~Christopher Hitchens
No evidence for something is not a belief system, nor is it faith-based, it is simply no evidence.
It appears some people have a huge issue with logic around here.
Your thinking is illogical but lets looks at some definitions of faith, which is the foundation for all religious beliefs. These are some quotes by some of the greatest minds to walk this earth.
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true." ~ Friedrich NietzscheAtheist
If you have a faith, it is statistically overwhelmingly likely that it is the same faith as your parents and grandparents had. No doubt soaring cathedrals, stirring music, moving stories and parables, help a bit. But by far the most important variable determining your religion is the accident of birth. The convictions that you so passionately believe would have been a completely different and largely contradictory set of convictions, if only you had happened to be born in a different place. Epidemiology, not evidence. ~ Richard DawkinsAtheist
To those searching for truth -- not the truth of dogma and darkness but the truth brought by reason, search, examination, and inquiry, discipline is required. For faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on facts, not fiction -- faith in fiction is a damnable false hope. ~ Thomas Edison Atheist
"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated" ~Christopher HitchensAtheist
No evidence for something is not a belief system, nor is it faith-based, it is simply no evidence.
It appears some people have a huge issue with logic around here.
OP, you simply want your view to be correct when it clearly isn't. You have faulty logic and clearly no understanding of a logical process.
The function of thought is to promote understanding. For understanding to be possible, we must have some method of assessing the veracity of various claims. This method is reason. Without reason you are forever stuck in a mindset that is irrational.
Arguing with you is pointless when you have a closed mind and the thinking processes of a 5 year old.
Seems that the last refuge in a debate or discussion, when you got nuthin' is the good old ad hominem. Pretty sad.
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Originally Posted by Boxcar Overkill
Proof There is No God :
For God to be real, everything we know about physics would have to be false.
Really? And now, why is that?
God created the laws of Physics. Science merely discovers said laws. And BTW said laws are evidence for a creator. Laws suggest a law giver.
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