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If atheism is required to provide empirical proof in order to support it, then it follows that every ridiculous claim that someone doesn't believe in, requires proof to support their disbelief to be considered logical. So what evidence does anyone have that proves the claim that Santa doesn't exist.
I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of Santa Claus. However, there is no reward or punishment for my belief or disbelief. In the end, I have no opinion whatsoever on Santa's existence. I have no proof for either belief or disbelief.
Considering there are plenty of deists, philosophical theists, Muslims, and Hindus in the world this would seem to be incorrect.
Plus among us Catholics arguments for God do not always reference the Bible. Still I do remember the thinking of many atheists here
Belief in God=Christian
Christian=Protestant
Protestant=Sola Scriptura with Bible literalism
Therefore
Belief in God=Sola Scriptura with Bible literalism
In the real world I live in this equation makes no sense at all.
Muslims, point to the Torah, their "bible". the Hindu religion it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances. It may be described as a way of life and nothing more. So exactly what do Catholics use to argue for god? I sure do hope it has nothing to do with the universe or nature, since again, nothing to do with god.
Considering there are plenty of deists, philosophical theists, Muslims, and Hindus in the world this would seem to be incorrect.
Considering that most of the posters here reside in the USA, it is statistically likely that when one of them references "God" they mean the christian version of the concept. So it's a valid assumption which most of the time is correct.
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Plus among us Catholics arguments for God do not always reference the Bible.
And that makes those arguments any more or less accurate how?
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Still I do remember the thinking of many atheists here
Belief in God=Christian
In the USA, that goes with the odds, so it's not a careless assumption to make.
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Christian=Protestant
I don't know of anyone that assumes all christians are protestants. Catholics and Mormons are christians, and they're not protestant, and both of those churches are pretty damned big.
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Protestant=Sola Scriptura with Bible literalism
What gave you that idea? I think nearly all of the atheists here know darn well that not all you christ-believers are thumpers.
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Therefore
Belief in God=Sola Scriptura with Bible literalism
In the real world I live in this equation makes no sense at all.
You don't live in the real world...but that's beside the point.
Considering that most of the posters here reside in the USA, it is statistically likely that when one of them references "God" they mean the christian version of the concept. So it's a valid assumption which most of the time is correct.
When you're making a blanket statement about "God" it's still a presumptuous statement. Besides which a good amount, I think a majority even, of the religiously unafilliated in the US believe in some form of god and they would probably say "God" in describing it.
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And that makes those arguments any more or less accurate how?
Irrelevant. I was arguing against his narrow assumption about what God-belief entails in this country or life in general. I wasn't arguing about accuracy. Although I think there are more intellectually challenging views on God than the most simplistic understanding of Biblical ones.
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In the USA, that goes with the odds, so it's not a careless assumption to make.
It's still a blanket assumption that does not even fit many of our posters.
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I don't know of anyone that assumes all christians are protestants. Catholics and Mormons are christians, and they're not protestant, and both of those churches are pretty damned big.
Maybe they don't think they're doing it, but some certainly are doing it. Any poster who is only arguing about a literalistic view of the Bible, or arguing against a Universe that was created less than 10,000 years ago, is only arguing with certain forms of Protestantism. Pope Pius XII said the Universe is billions of years old. Orthodoxy I believe feels likewise. Mormons, I think, believe God created the Earth from pre-existing matter in the Universe.
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What gave you that idea? I think nearly all of the atheists here know darn well that not all you christ-believers are thumpers.
Yes they know it, but they'd rather pretend otherwise. A great many here basically assume a Christian is a "thumper", as you put it, unless proved otherwise. I've been on the receiving end of this so I know.
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You don't live in the real world...but that's beside the point.
Of course I live in the real world. Even if my view of the real world is distorted or false I still live there. However I trust my view of reality way more than pretty much any atheist here, including you. (Sorry a smiley doesn't quite mollify a base insult)
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