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Old 12-14-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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Religion is a subset of philosophy.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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Religion is a subset of philosophy.
So is science, in a sense.


But Religion is different than philosophy in that philosophers have an obligation to the truth.
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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Religion is a subset of philosophy.
I don't agree. I see Religion and Philosophy as asking similar questions but coming to different conclusions and thus are different systems. There are too many differences between the two.

Religion has rituals, philosophy doesn't.

Philosophy utilises rational thinking and critical thinking while religion emphasises faith above all.

Religion usually has some kind of miracle involved, philosophy never does. Neither Kant nor Hegel nor Nietzsche were born of a virgin
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:07 AM
 
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I don't agree. I see Religion and Philosophy as asking similar questions but coming to different conclusions and thus are different systems. There are too many differences between the two.

Religion has rituals, philosophy doesn't.

Philosophy utilises rational thinking and critical thinking while religion emphasises faith above all.

Religion usually has some kind of miracle involved, philosophy never does. Neither Kant nor Hegel nor Nietzsche were born of a virgin
Which is why you find religion and philosophy books next to each other on the shelf, within the same subclass.

All religion is philosophy, but not all philosophy is religion.
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Scientology.
That is certainly one where there are no gods but a purely speculative and scientifically unsupportable thoery was turned into a cult and then into a religion because that made it (hopefully) inviolable to criticism or taxes.

A religion doesn't actually need a god, but a pseudo - god such as Karma or the Thetans or the space - brothers results in the same thing.
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I don't agree. I see Religion and Philosophy as asking similar questions but coming to different conclusions and thus are different systems. There are too many differences between the two.

Religion has rituals, philosophy doesn't.

Philosophy utilises rational thinking and critical thinking while religion emphasises faith above all.

Religion usually has some kind of miracle involved, philosophy never does. Neither Kant nor Hegel nor Nietzsche were born of a virgin
I suppose in the broadest sense all of those, religion, science, exploration, superstition are subsets of philosophy 'love of knowledge'.

The real difference is the methods we use. Do we use empirically verified evidence and sound logic or faith in speculations and (essentialy) the false results of biased sampling of results?

I don't blame Newton for his alchemy, Astrology and prophecy - decipherment. He was having a go to see what worked.

The results of his sound science have stood the test of time. The search for the philosopher's stone have be consigned to oblivion. And the sooner astrology and Daniel - prophecy go the same way, the better.
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