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Old 07-27-2007, 05:56 PM
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This came up on another thread. My question is simply this: Have you ever seen anything personally that you would classify as a "miracle?" This doesn't have to be something of the scope and magnitude of "parting the Red Sea" or "raising the dead," ok. But I am wanting us to define "miracle" as at least something that clearly went beyond the scope of what would be expected to happen in the natural. (i.e.-let's not talk about the birth of a child as a miracle, a rainbow or any other natural phenomenon)

Do you believe miracles are possible? If so, why? If not, why not?
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Austin Texas
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This came up on another thread. My question is simply this: Have you ever seen anything personally that you would classify as a "miracle?" This doesn't have to be something of the scope and magnitude of "parting the Red Sea" or "raising the dead," ok. But I am wanting us to define "miracle" as at least something that clearly went beyond the scope of what would be expected to happen in the natural. (i.e.-let's not talk about the birth of a child as a miracle, a rainbow or any other natural phenomenon)

Do you believe miracles are possible? If so, why? If not, why not?
Good post.

Miracles? Yes they are quite possible. In fact: Probable!
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:47 PM
 
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This came up on another thread. My question is simply this: Have you ever seen anything personally that you would classify as a "miracle?" This doesn't have to be something of the scope and magnitude of "parting the Red Sea" or "raising the dead," ok. But I am wanting us to define "miracle" as at least something that clearly went beyond the scope of what would be expected to happen in the natural. (i.e.-let's not talk about the birth of a child as a miracle, a rainbow or any other natural phenomenon)

Do you believe miracles are possible? If so, why? If not, why not?
a cloudy day in AR, around 1979, tornado alley, my house and my grandparents house were about 300 feet apart, now Im not saying this to be wierd, but when a storm was coming, I would always get a "feeling" about it, that I didnt understand, I was 5 then but still remeber that day and probably alwats will...to make a long story short, tornados were headed toward us, we had been watching the weather on tv all day, and late in the afternoon, the wind got up, it started to hail, I was at my grandparents house holding a kitten watching this out the front window, when my dad started yelling"get in the storm celler, its on his way! so we hurriedly got out the door and started to the cellar, with the exception of my grandma, who said, I dont need no stormceller, all I need to do is pray...by this time we could SEE the tornado,probably a mile or so away, across the field, and no I didnt dream ANY of this, well she stood on that porch and asked God to take care of us, as and she did that tornado rose up off the ground and into the sky. I wasnt out in it, my mom had me in the front of the celler,but I could see. but NO ONE can ever convince me GOd didnt do that.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville,Florida
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I don't know if you would consider this a miracle or not,but definitely the Lord had His Hand in it.

In 1981 ,at the age of 24 ,I was pushing a stalled car at night on a main highway, things were going well as cars were going around me.All of a sudden I turned around and there was a car coming directly towards me,I didn't have time to get out of the way and ended up bodily crushed between two cars.Both of my legs were mangled and I was bleeding profusely,I thought I was going to die for sure.My dad had been with me that night in the car and he got passerby's to call for an ambulance and rush me to the hospital. Upon arrival at the hospital,I was rushed to the Emergency Room whereby they amputated my left leg and it was pending whether I would lose the other leg,but fortunately the surgeon saved my life and my right leg was spared.
It took months of therapy and healing and a lot of love and support from my family. Shortly thereafter,I was fitted for a prosthesis.

Needless to say,I was up and around walking along with going to college within the year. I could not in any way shape or form foreseen this outcome. I thought I was going to be bed-ridden for a long time and didn't think I would ever walk again.

The Lord definitely had His hand in that outcome.I know for sure that we have a loving God.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:12 PM
 
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I posted this a while back in responce to a "does prayer work" question. I think it can fit here quite nicely.....

Try this on for size ... see if it fits your criteria. This is VERY personal to me and my family, but I think you need to hear it.

My diabetic wife was pregnant with our first child. Begining in her 4th month, due to the high risk factors, they ran a lot of extra tests. The doctors told us they discovered our unborn child had developed Spina Bifida and also/possibly Encephalitis --- meaning basically his spine was open and water on the brain.

They sent us to specialists in Pittsburgh who did high resolution ultrasounds every week. Every week showed the lack of progress of these medical issues resolving. They pressured us into considering an abortion. We staunchly refused. They said we were being selfish -- that this "fetus" had little chance of surviving and, if "it" did "it" would be severly disabled and most likely die a very early death. We told them this "child" (my son) was a gift from God and there was no way we would abort "him". We said you know what's going on and you'll be prepared when "his" delivery-time comes.

Meanwhile we prayed our hearts out for a healthy child or at least the ability to deal with any disabilities he may come with. We loved this child and wanted him very badly. We prayed daily.

We kept going every week and fighting every week. About the 2nd week into my wife's seventh month the doctors couldn't "see" my son's spine. It looked cloudy. They tried 3 other machines and still couldn't see very clearly the area around the head or spine. They continued the ultrasounds and tests for the next two weeks like this: Ultrasound day, stress test day, ultrasound day, stress test day .. and on and on. They still couldn't see what was happening to our child. They were sure it was getting worse and the cloud was some fluid blocking the view. They were sure my son would die shortly after birth.

Then in the beginning of my wife's eighth month ... guess who decided to arrive early? You bet, he was on his way!! The mix of emotions was terrible. Happy, scared, excited, worried. But we put our faith in God and trusted him to give us our son. He was four weeks early. (Due July 7 arrived June 9) Now the doctors were not happy. Not only were they preparing for a baby with an open, exposed spine and water on the brain, but now a premie. And to complicate matters, they couldn't see for the past approx. 2 weeks the development of these disorders. They were flying blind too!

To end this .. my son was delivered -- completely healthy and whole!! No water on the brain, no open spine, nothing wrong!! Well, he did have colic (underdeveloped stomach) like many babies and got jaundice for a week, like many babies, and has a "dimple" or small, closed indent at the very bottom of his spine, but none of the medical nightmare that doctors, nurses and my wife & I were prepared for. We all saw it with our own eyes -- he should have had these problems, he should have died. The doctor's stated it couldn't have just happened, but it did. Almost 6 months of an exposed spine and water on the brain does not just close and heal and act completely normal in 2 wks time. It was a miracale

He's now 13 years old, in junior high, is a wiz at math and computers and is on the honor roll.

GOD DOES ANSWER PRAYER!!!

Update: My son is also a born-again, baptized believer who discusses his Bible readings with me. He reads on his own and comes to me with his insights and questions. I am truly blessed
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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This came up on another thread. My question is simply this: Have you ever seen anything personally that you would classify as a "miracle?" This doesn't have to be something of the scope and magnitude of "parting the Red Sea" or "raising the dead," ok. But I am wanting us to define "miracle" as at least something that clearly went beyond the scope of what would be expected to happen in the natural. (i.e.-let's not talk about the birth of a child as a miracle, a rainbow or any other natural phenomenon)

Do you believe miracles are possible? If so, why? If not, why not?
Yes, I have absolutely NO doubt that miracles happen today, because two of them happened to me. I was there, and I saw, heard, and felt the results for myself. In one event, there were two others besides me who saw what happened. I roughly define a miracle as an event that is clearly supernatural, and that ordinarily cannot happen, from the scientific viewpoint. They are caused (I believe) by either the Holy Spirit, or an angel of God, interrupting a situation you are in. This cut-and-paste is a reply I did from another thread addressing this, but applies here as well:

"A real miracle is a supernatural event, that absolutely "cannot" happen, in the scientific sense. I have had two, in my lifetime. One was about 35 years ago. We were snowmachining in the mountains (me, my uncle, and a cousin), and after several hours it got to snowing heavily, to where it was hard to see. In my group of three, I was asked to lead the way home. I moved along slowly, like 25mph, trying to see where I was going, but it was difficult to make out any direction, and depth perception was extremely poor, because everything was the same color: white. All of a sudden, and I mean RIGHT NOW INSTANTLY, my machine spun 90 degrees to the direction we were going, stopped, and the motor "shut itself off". The other two guys stopped because now I was in the way...sideways. I didn't know what happened, so I stood up to see. Right away, I saw a chasm about 15 feet away. If I had kept going, I would have led all of us down a sheer vertical 300 foot drop off! I never saw it, or anything else, but I remember shaking uncontrollably afterwards, from head to toes....thinking how close we had come....I was speechless. We looked, but there was NOTHING in the path that could have spun the machine that way: no rocks, stumps, holes, etc....nothing...but flat snow.
Another time was in my early adult life, also some 35 yrs ago. I was living alone, unemployed, and desperately poor. I had a wood stove for heat, in a beat-up old trailer house. Early one morning the fire had gone nearly out, and the temperature outside had dipped to 17 below zero during the night. (the coldest I have ever seen it in this part of Alaska). I went to the kitchen to make coffee. Holding the coffee pot in the kitchen sink, I opened the spigot and.....nothing! No water came out..... So I opened the hot water spigot and.....also nothing! The pipes were frozen solidy. So I went into the bathroom, and opened the spigots there, and NOTHING! ALL the pipes were frozen! I remember being really bummed, thinking "here I am without a job, flat-broke, and now I have no water!". I was depressed, so thought I should read the Bible. I found it, then sat down at the kitchen table. Not knowing where to start, it just flipped open, so with my eyes closed I pointed a finger at random.(yeah, I know, not wise...but I didn't know any better back then) When I opened my eyes, I read the verse OUTLOUD, Psalm 63:1:
"Oh God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee: my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is."
INSTANTLY, and I mean RIGHT NOW, ALL the spigots in the house blasted out water at full force!!! Folks...you just cannot thaw out water pipes instantly...but it happened. Were these two events miracles? I think so...they are impossible to happen...ordinarily. I didn't know either one was going to happen, and I sure didn't ask for them, but thank God they did!"

Are miracles real? Yes....they are real, and they are happening today! It is because God is REAL, and His Spirit is here on earth, and His angels are here ministering in our daily lives. In short: God CARES about us!

Bud
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:29 PM
 
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YES!! All of the above are miracles that could only come from God. I believe it is a miracle that my husband is home with me tonight and not in the hospital recovering from a stoke they though he had earlier in the week.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:32 PM
 
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YES!! All of the above are miracles that could only come from God. I believe it is a miracle that my husband is home with me tonight and not in the hospital recovering from a stoke they though he had earlier in the week.
That is a miracle, ILNC. They all thought it, looked for it and "surprise!" nothing there! That is fantastic !

PS - Still in my prayers
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:19 AM
 
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This came up on another thread. My question is simply this: Have you ever seen anything personally that you would classify as a "miracle?" This doesn't have to be something of the scope and magnitude of "parting the Red Sea" or "raising the dead," ok. But I am wanting us to define "miracle" as at least something that clearly went beyond the scope of what would be expected to happen in the natural. (i.e.-let's not talk about the birth of a child as a miracle, a rainbow or any other natural phenomenon)

Do you believe miracles are possible? If so, why? If not, why not?
I think anything we think of as a "miracle" today will eventually be explained by science.
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:28 AM
 
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by Polar Bear:I think anything we think of as a "miracle" today will eventually be explained by science.
Actually and eventually all things explained by science will be perfectly aligned with God ......or it will be wrong.

Science and God do not have to be at different ends of the belief spectrum. God does not require we understand all things perfectly. He does expect us to be seekers ( in truth and knowledge) and scienctists are seekers. However when science's main objective is to "disprove" something and has an "agenda" that science is in fact corrupt. Science should seek to know other wise it isn't science.

Science also has the capacity to be wrong. That isn't bad or good... it just is. Science gave us many things in the past that scienctists were as adamat about then as some are today. That doesn't make science bad... just incorrect. Science is limited like people within a finite world of understanding, God understanding is infinite. Easy to say hard to explain, but never the less
it's true... and yes miracles can be explained by the faithful.
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