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Old 05-22-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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HERE IS PROOF ABOUT PROPHET Jesus [pbuh] YouTube - ‪For All Christians !! i wish the best for all people
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Old 05-22-2011, 10:10 PM
 
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HERE IS PROOF ABOUT PROPHET Jesus [pbuh] YouTube - ‪For All Christians !! i wish the best for all people
Still spamming the forum with your You Tube propaganda I see! What a waste!!
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Old 05-22-2011, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Default That's what you were taught

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........................the prophet jesus peace be upon him will be the saviour but not as the christians understand...............................


the prophet jesus peace be upon him on his second coming will save the muslims believers from the antichrist
and he will kill the antichrist also he will save them from Gog and Magog

jesus is not God and not son of God and not 3 in 1 or 1 in 3 he is a prophet and a messenger from Allah
just like Moses ,Nouh Abraham Jonah and others

if you want to avoid hell you have to believe that Allah is the only god
and Muhammed is his messenger and do good deeds

when you believe in Muhammed that means you believe in Jesus and Moses and all the previous true prophets.

Allah did not send all those prophets to make us have dispute
but he send them to give us the same message from him

to worship him alone and to abey him and to live on his planet according to his rules then you will be saved and included in his mercy.



How that working out fer ya? I believe God wants to save all people..........but Jesus must to have never uttered a false word to be a true prophet other wise He was a False Prophet, so maybe
it's important to study exactly what he said............chow
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Old 05-22-2011, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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How that working out fer ya? I believe God wants to save all people..........but Jesus must to have never uttered a false word to be a true prophet other wise He was a False Prophet, so maybe
it's important to study exactly what he said............chow
Out side of "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani"

Which are in Syro-Chaldaic (Aramaic) we have no record of the exact words he spoke in the bible. All that seems to exist are early Koine Greek translations of his words, which we can not verify as we have no record of what he actually said in Aramaic.

Isa(as) (Jesus ) is among the most loved of Prophets(PBUT) he was a true Prophet and However, the words he spoke have been lost or translated and all translations are the interpretation of the Translator and not the exact words.

The Qur'an does tell us Jesus(as) is a true Prophet(PBUH) and he spoke only the truth.

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Old 05-23-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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Whether you believe in a god or not, there is a very basic concept here that several in this thread are missing. ALL religions, at their core, ARE EXCLUSIVE. Trying to sell a global god that is one and the same in every major religious worldview is simply demonstrating a severe ignorance to the concept of all the major religions.

This poem is a good satire written by Steve Turner... and I think it sums up what I am trying to say quite well:

Creed
by Steve Turner

We believe in Marx, Freud and Darwin
We believe everything is OK
as long as you don't hurt anyone
to the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge.

We believe in sex before, during, and
after marriage.
We believe in the therapy of sin.
We believe that adultery is fun.
We believe that sodomy’s OK.
We believe that taboos are taboo.

We believe that everything's getting better
despite evidence to the contrary.
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence.

We believe there's something in horoscopes
UFO's and bent spoons.
Jesus was a good man just like Buddha,
Mohammed, and ourselves.
He was a good moral teacher though we think
His good morals were bad.

We believe that all religions are basically the same-
at least the one that we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on matters of creation,
sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation.

We believe that after death comes the Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens
they say nothing.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied, then its
compulsory heaven for all
excepting perhaps
Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Kahn

We believe in Masters and Johnson
What's selected is average.
What's average is normal.
What's normal is good.

We believe in total disarmament.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and
bloodshed.
Americans should beat their guns into tractors .
And the Russians would be sure to follow.

We believe that man is essentially good.
It's only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society.

We believe that each man must find the truth that
is right for him.
Reality will adapt accordingly.
The universe will readjust.
History will alter.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth
that there is no absolute truth.

We believe in the rejection of creeds,
And the flowering of individual thought.

If chance be
the Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky
and when you hear:

State of Emergency!

Sniper Kills Ten!

Troops on Rampage!

Whites go Looting!

Bomb Blasts School!

It is but the sound of man worshipping his maker.
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Whether you believe in a god or not, there is a very basic concept here that several in this thread are missing. ALL religions, at their core, ARE EXCLUSIVE. Trying to sell a global god that is one and the same in every major religious worldview is simply demonstrating a severe ignorance to the concept of all the major religions.

This poem is a good satire written by Steve Turner... and I think it sums up what I am trying to say quite well:
I do agree what you say is true.

Many of us do sometimes attempt to sell our beliefs for the wrong reasons. Many of us, including myself, often fail to distinguish being distributors, advertisers and salesmen. Each of us is simply the distributor. We need to provide what we have to those who are sincerely seeking it and understand that we are doing an injustice when we go for the hard sale.

Always have an open door, but do not push anybody into your home.
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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I do agree what you say is true.

Many of us do sometimes attempt to sell our beliefs for the wrong reasons. Many of us, including myself, often fail to distinguish being distributors, advertisers and salesmen. Each of us is simply the distributor. We need to provide what we have to those who are sincerely seeking it and understand that we are doing an injustice when we go for the hard sale.

Always have an open door, but do not push anybody into your home.
I agree 100% with what you said. Nicely put
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:28 PM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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Originally Posted by Baylorguy View Post
Whether you believe in a god or not, there is a very basic concept here that several in this thread are missing. ALL religions, at their core, ARE EXCLUSIVE. Trying to sell a global god that is one and the same in every major religious worldview is simply demonstrating a severe ignorance to the concept of all the major religions.

This poem is a good satire written by Steve Turner... and I think it sums up what I am trying to say quite well:

Creed
by Steve Turner

We believe in Marx, Freud and Darwin
We believe everything is OK
as long as you don't hurt anyone
to the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge.

We believe in sex before, during, and
after marriage.
We believe in the therapy of sin.
We believe that adultery is fun.
We believe that sodomy’s OK.
We believe that taboos are taboo.

We believe that everything's getting better
despite evidence to the contrary.
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence.

We believe there's something in horoscopes
UFO's and bent spoons.
Jesus was a good man just like Buddha,
Mohammed, and ourselves.
He was a good moral teacher though we think
His good morals were bad.

We believe that all religions are basically the same-
at least the one that we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on matters of creation,
sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation.

We believe that after death comes the Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens
they say nothing.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied, then its
compulsory heaven for all
excepting perhaps
Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Kahn

We believe in Masters and Johnson
What's selected is average.
What's average is normal.
What's normal is good.

We believe in total disarmament.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and
bloodshed.
Americans should beat their guns into tractors .
And the Russians would be sure to follow.

We believe that man is essentially good.
It's only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society.

We believe that each man must find the truth that
is right for him.
Reality will adapt accordingly.
The universe will readjust.
History will alter.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth
that there is no absolute truth.

We believe in the rejection of creeds,
And the flowering of individual thought.

If chance be
the Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky
and when you hear:

State of Emergency!

Sniper Kills Ten!

Troops on Rampage!

Whites go Looting!

Bomb Blasts School!

It is but the sound of man worshipping his maker.
"Man keeps looking for a Truth that fits his reality. Given man's reality, the Truth doesn't fit."
Werner Erhardt
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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HERE IS PROOF ABOUT PROPHET Jesus [pbuh] YouTube - ‪For All Christians !! i wish the best for all people
My Dear Brother,

Although only a few will watch the video, less will understand some will even mock it. But let that be their choice, you can only offer choices.

If just one benefits, you will have done much more than most people do and may you be blessed for your efforts.
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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My Dear Brother,
Although only a few will watch the video, less will understand some will even mock it. But let that be their choice, you can only offer choices.
If just one benefits, you will have done much more than most people do and may you be blessed for your efforts.
Reinforcing rote conditioning and ancient ignorance is not a loving gesture toward one's brother . . some attempt to intellectually edify would be far more loving.
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