How could Adam and Eve know what dying meant? (hell, mythology, churches)
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If God created Adam and Eve, perfect and eternal, at first before they rebelled, meaning in my opinion, without the knowledge of death(since they weren't originally supposed to die). How could they then, be held accountable, for eating from the "tree"... when God told them they would die, if they did?
If God created Adam and Eve, perfect and eternal, at first before they rebelled, meaning in my opinion, without the knowledge of death(since they weren't originally supposed to die). How could they then, be held accountable, for eating from the "tree"... when God told them they would die, if they did?
First off in order to believe what you have just said you have to believe the mythology of creation in the Christian sacred book. Nothing is created to be eternal.
First off in order to believe what you have just said you have to believe the mythology of creation in the Christian sacred book. Nothing is created to be eternal.
Yeah, I agree with you that nothing is created eternal, except that, which isn't created. I just always hear how the bible is word for word, pound for pound gospel truth... and those who say nay, are floured and then dipped, into the deep fat fryer for ever and ever. YIKES!
Yeah, I agree with you that nothing is created eternal, except that, which isn't created. I just always hear how the bible is word for word, pound for pound gospel truth... and those who say nay, are floured and then dipped, into the deep fat fryer for ever and ever. YIKES!
Yeah...I can vouch for that...My arse is still smarting from the flames of proving to the blind brainwashed sheeple that the bible is not only fallible but contains many errors.
here is the answer for your question from the Noble Quran.
And He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels; then He said: Tell me the names of those if you are right. They said: Glory be to Thee! we have no knowledge but that which Thou hast taught us; surely Thou art the Knowing, the Wise. He said: O Adam! inform them of their names. Then when he had informed them of their names, He said: Did I not say to you that I surely know what is ghaib (Unseen) in the heavens and the earth and (that) I know what you manifest and what you hide? And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam they did obeisance, but Iblis (did it not). He refused and he was proud, and he was one of the unbelievers. And We said: O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the garden and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish and do not approach this tree, for then you will be of the unjust. But the Shaitan made them both fall from it, and caused them to depart from that (state) in which they were; and We said: Get forth, some of you being the enemies of others, and there is for you in the earth an abode and a provision for a time. Then Adam received (some) words from his Lord, so He turned to him mercifully; surely He is Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful. The Noble Quran.
Yeah, I agree with you that nothing is created eternal, except that, which isn't created. I just always hear how the bible is word for word, pound for pound gospel truth... and those who say nay, are floured and then dipped, into the deep fat fryer for ever and ever. YIKES!
But that would also mean that you would have to have a belief in Christianity and I do not believe in Christianity, therefore I do not believe in the Christian hell.
Yeah, I agree with you that nothing is created eternal, except that, which isn't created.
All intelligent life was created with the potential and ability and the purpose of living forever.
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I just always hear how the bible is word for word, pound for pound gospel truth... and those who say nay, are floured and then dipped, into the deep fat fryer for ever and ever. YIKES!
It's been brought to the attention of you people repeatedly that the hellfire eternal torture doctrine is a doctrine borrowed from paganism and that it has absolutely no basis in the Bible. References have been provided as well. Even Catholicism doesn't teach a literal eternal roasting of humans any longer and most mainline Protestant Churches also do not. Yet you folks insist on spreading that doctrine.
busterkeaton wrote: If God created Adam and Eve, perfect and eternal, at first before they rebelled, meaning in my opinion, without the knowledge of death(since they weren't originally supposed to die). How could they then, be held accountable, for eating from the "tree"... when God told them they would die, if they did?
If God told them that they would die it stands to reason that they understood him. Otherwise he would not have told them. Why is that so difficult for you to assume? Perfecton doesn't prevent a person from understanding what the opposite of being alive is. Especially when one hasn't been alive before as prior to being born-you know? Furthermore animals were not given eternal life so evidence of death would be visible for them to observe and make a comparison. But as said before-if God used the term "death" is because they understood it. Otherwise God would have been unjust or a deceptive trickster via depriving Adam and Eve of the necessary knowledge to make an informed decision..
Actually God had to make it clear what dying was in the Garden of Eden, but the way they knew was together to each other; isn't that the way love is? Aaah, in worded content THEY probably thought they could die at the same time. And the tree of Life was naming the changing nature of species faster than Evolution working itself out by Fact.
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