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Old 12-15-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I'm just glad the majority don't hold GldnRule's views. It'd either be chaos and civil war or concentration camps for everyone. Yay?

 
Old 12-15-2011, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Review history and think man, if minorities couldn't possibly win, what kind of world would you be living in? When are you going to realize that your argument ad populum is nothing more than an untrue fallacy?
 
Old 12-15-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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Review history and think man, if minorities couldn't possibly win, what kind of world would you be living in? When are you going to realize that your argument ad populum is nothing more than an untrue fallacy?
What are you talking about?
Minorities can, and do, "win". If their concepts are meritorious. Sometimes it's a long hard road...but right usually prevails in the end.
Look at slavery and womens rights in the U.S...it took time, but it all got squared away.

Ad Populum...is only false in "Pedigree Logic"...not in any other light.

MOF...the Rule Of The Majority is the way most western governments are currently run. Whether it be the rule of the majority of the electorate, their reps, or those appointed by their reps.

Let's deal with REALITY...Majority Rules is how things work ANYWAY. I'm just proposing to get rid of the "middlemen" and put everything directly to a full ballot of all the citizens, like in a general election.

And, no...it wouldn't be "chaos and civil war or concentration camps for everyone"...as was said by another.
That's what we almost have NOW, with the current system in the U.S.
We have a huge percentage of the population incarcerated because of laws that are on the books that were put in place by a minority that don't accurately represent the will of the people. Those "crimes" wouldn't exist if those laws had to stand up to a general ballot.
 
Old 12-15-2011, 06:09 PM
 
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What are you talking about?
Minorities can, and do, "win". If their concepts are meritorious. Sometimes it's a long hard road...but right usually prevails in the end.
Look at slavery and womens rights in the U.S...it took time, but it all got squared away.

Ad Populum...is only false in "Pedigree Logic"...not in any other light.

MOF...the Rule Of The Majority is the way most western governments are currently run. Whether it be the rule of the majority of the electorate, their reps, or those appointed by their reps.

Let's deal with REALITY...Majority Rules is how things work ANYWAY. I'm just proposing to get rid of the "middlemen" and put everything directly to a full ballot of all the citizens, like in a general election.

And, no...it wouldn't be "chaos and civil war or concentration camps for everyone"...as was said by another.
That's what we almost have NOW, with the current system in the U.S.
We have a huge percentage of the population incarcerated because of laws that are on the books that were put in place by a minority that don't accurately represent the will of the people. Those "crimes" wouldn't exist if those laws had to stand up to a general ballot.
You have been living in your porn world way too long, the bigger is better fantasy of the porn industry is the only perspective you have, and it's bovine excrement.

(oh I hope you don't produce scat porn)
 
Old 12-15-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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Oh, and Atheists don't need to "throw up their hands"...just understand their place/position in "The Grand Scheme of Things"...which, in reality, ain't such a much.
Not that it always has to be that way...who knows?...things change over time. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
There IS no "grand scheme of things".
 
Old 12-15-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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You have been living in your porn world way too long, the bigger is better fantasy of the porn industry is the only perspective you have, and it's bovine excrement.

(oh I hope you don't produce scat porn)
Cut it out with that dumb stuff Ash.

One of my businesses (the smallest of them $$$wise BTW) has nothing to do with my views on the subjects I posts about here.

Why do you have a problem with me having an opinion?

So I say I think Pure Democracy is the best system of government IMO...So, what?
I say I subscribe to non-religious Theism...So, what?
Give me an objective reason why any of that is "bovine excrement"?

You gotta bring up some Strawman about my business endeavors? What's up with THAT?

I'm not even into porn personally...I just produce it and sell it. And donate most of the money I make from it.

You wanna debate my offerings in their context?...do it. Or just ignore my posts. But cut the ignorant retorts.
 
Old 12-15-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: FL
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Cut it out with that dumb stuff Ash.

One of my businesses (the smallest of them $$$wise BTW) has nothing to do with my views on the subjects I posts about here.

Why do you have a problem with me having an opinion?

So I say I think Pure Democracy is the best system of government IMO...So, what?
I say I subscribe to non-religious Theism...So, what?
Give me an objective reason why any of that is "bovine excrement"?

You gotta bring up some Strawman about my business endeavors? What's up with THAT?

I'm not even into porn personally...I just produce it and sell it. And donate most of the money I make from it.

You wanna debate my offerings in their context?...do it. Or just ignore my posts. But cut the ignorant retorts.
Y'all. It takes two people to continue an argument and only one person to stop it. I should know!
 
Old 12-15-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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There IS no "grand scheme of things".
In the context that I use it, I intend The Grand Scheme Of Things to equate to The Way Of The World, or, The Way The World Really Is.

I thought that was obvious.

MOF, if you read my posts you'll see I use them, or similar, interchangeably.
 
Old 12-15-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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What is the discussion about GldnRule about anyways?
 
Old 12-15-2011, 09:58 PM
 
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What is the discussion about GldnRule about anyways?
I'm a Theist pornographer...and I call Atheism for the insignificant (as respects world influence) concept that it is...that "rubs some the wrong way".

Theism and Pornography...the two most popular/prolific things to occupy mankind's mind there ever was...and that's A FACT!! WOO-HOO!!

When they have no other way to debate what I said...they bring up my porn industry involvement and levy personal attacks.

Truth be told...I LOVE IT!...I hope they never stop. I just tell them to "cut it out", because I know that will make them do it more.
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