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those are your beliefs.
people have a great deal of experience and understanding which you lack.
to chalk up experience which people have (which you do not), and understanding which people have (which you do not), and knowledge which people have (which you do not) as "made up stuff" IS simplistic and superficial. people validate for themselves. people substantiate for themselves. you may lack that. other people do not.
Come on now. You post about religions that you have no expertise about...just what you've read. Earlier today you were posting about some deep science topics. What's your expertise there? And why to you keep complaining about kindness and they make comments like the bolded?
When I see posts like this...it proves to me how biased and discriminatory some people are.
EVERYTHING you can think of is "lobbied"...every product, drug, plan, social policy preference, domestic policy preference, foreign policy preference,, economic policy, defense/military policy, social safety policy, education policy, ect, ect, etc. But then some get all bent if the Religious try to influence how things are in society.
What's up with that?
Why should the Religious be excluded from trying to get society to be how they would prefer it? Especially if you don't take issue with the government officials being lobbied about everything and anything else.
well, we get bent out of shape at all injustices and stupid rules. Its just these guys think anti-religious socialism is better than fascism theism. They are so wrong they are dangerous to freedom everywhere.
Come on now. You post about religions that you have no expertise about...just what you've read. Earlier today you were posting about some deep science topics. What's your expertise there? And why to you keep complaining about kindness and they make comments like the bolded?
i don't call other paths of religion and spirituality "made up stuff" and "baseless assertions" and "wild guesses." and i don't call science topics "made up stuff" and "wild guesses."
and for someone to claim their chosen path of religion and spirituality is "intellectually superior" (an earlier post in this thread made that claim of superiority about atheism) well that mindset puts them square in the category of supremacists. it is the same mindset of those who claim that their race is "superior," or that their gender is "superior." that's what a supremacist is: "an advocate or adherent of the supremacy of one group : a person who believes that one group of people as identified by their shared race, ethnicity, sex, gender, or religion is inherently superior to other groups."
i find that disturbing.
for the same reasons, and because it is the same mindset, that it is disturbing to hear white supremacists claim to be "superior."
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i don't call other paths of religion and spirituality "made up stuff" and "baseless assertions" and "wild guesses." and i don't call science topics "made up stuff" and "wild guesses."
and for someone to claim their chosen path of religion and spirituality is "intellectually superior" (an earlier post in this thread made that claim of superiority about atheism) well that mindset puts them square in the category of supremacists. it is the same mindset of those who claim that their race is "superior," or that their gender is "superior." that's what a supremacist is: "an advocate or adherent of the supremacy of one group : a person who believes that one group of people as identified by their shared race, ethnicity, sex, gender, or religion is inherently superior to other groups."
well, we get bent out of shape at all injustices and stupid rules. Its just these guys think anti-religious socialism is better than fascism theism. They are so wrong they are dangerous to freedom everywhere.
And that is the basis for my position on this Arach...freedom.
Everybody would like things to be the way they would prefer them to be...that's just human nature.
A good way to do this, is to lobby the officials that make the policies & laws we must live under...so things are legislated or ordered in a way that furthers ones' preferences.
Thus...there is nothing you can think of that the government isn't lobbied about...and few complain that they are.
Except when it comes to Religion/Spirituality...for some reason, people who would not object about any other kind of efforts to entreat the officials, have a problem when they are lobbied about preferences related to Religion/Spirituality.
As always, if the shoe doesn't fit, you needn't wear it. I don't agree with your beliefs but you have generally been willing to admit that you base them on your personal experiences and you are not out agitating politicians to impose your ideas, practices, beliefs or rules on others.
Come on now. You post about religions that you have no expertise about...just what you've read. Earlier today you were posting about some deep science topics. What's your expertise there? And why to you keep complaining about kindness and they make comments like the bolded?
What is wrong with reading in order to understand? Do you not read? Do you not read what is going on in science and understand? Is ignorance something you wear with pride? You make all kinds of statements about cultures you have neither experience nor knowledge about.
Kindness begets kindness.
What is wrong with reading in order to understand? Do you not read? Do you not read what is going on in science and understand? Is ignorance something you wear with pride? You make all kinds of statements about cultures you have neither experience nor knowledge about.
Kindness begets kindness.
Nothing is wrong with reading to understand. It's a good thing to do. It's not a good thing to then attempt to come across as an expert on something.
Come on now. You post about religions that you have no expertise about...just what you've read. Earlier today you were posting about some deep science topics. What's your expertise there? And why to you keep complaining about kindness and they make comments like the bolded?
for someone posting online, you can't possibly know what a person's experience and expertise is regarding paths of religion and spirituality.
unless they have shared that with you in depth and in detail.
which i have not.
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quantum physics, quantitative biology, biological physics, and neuroscience actively investigate this.
those are science, not philosophy
2018 journal article, "Can quantum physics help solve the hard problem of consciousness? A hypothesis based on entangled spins and photons"
"The simultaneous unity and complexity of subjective experience is difficult to understand from a classical physics perspective. In contrast, quantum entanglement is naturally both complex and unified. Moreover the concept of matter is much more subtle in quantum physics compared to classical physics, and quantum computing shows that quantum effects can be useful for information processing. Building on recent progress in quantum technology and neuroscience, I propose a concrete hypothesis as a basis for further investigation, namely that subjective experience is related to the dynamics of a complex entangled state of spins, which is continuously generated and updated through the exchange of photons. "
Author is Dr. Christoph Simon, a University Professor with a PhD in Physics, and a Master in Theoretical Physics, who is Associate Head of Research with the Department of Physics. He is affiliated with the Institute for Quantum Science and Technology, and is a member of the Hotchkiss Brain Institute. He "has made significant contributions to the fields of quantum optics and quantum information. His most significant contributions are in the fields of long-distance quantum communication (entanglement creation, quantum repeaters, entanglement purification, quantum memories) and of trying to bring quantum physics to the macroscopic level (quantum opto-mechanics, quantum amplification, multi-party entanglement)."
Thank you for digging this up. It is odd how atheists who revere science don’t hesitate to make stuff up.
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