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There is the discovery of Noah`s Ark by the French Explorer Fernand Navarra who visited the site where this boat is on the mountain Ararat in 1952-1969 made four visits and actually brought back human hand hewn and squared cut wood from the boat where it sits in a French museum today ignored by modern science, and most people who believe in doubting any evidence ..... The site is off limits by the Turkey government as a national archaeological and off limits ...... Then there is the physical miracles where Christian Healing ministries of Lord Jesus healed people of ailment that science confess as no answer, and impossible to be helped by the medical communities , but people are being healed from cancer, aids , diabetes, blindness, deafness, physical deformities are being healed, and these miracles are ignored and even ridiculed and denied, but the miracles are going on despite the indifference ..... So if science where to claim that Jesus healing ministries is possible then science would be right here .....
There is the discovery of Noah`s Ark by the French Explorer Fernand Navarra who visited the site where this boat is on the mountain Ararat in 1952-1969 made four visits and actually brought back human hand hewn and squared cut wood from the boat where it sits in a French museum today ignored by modern science, .....
I think that is not a particularly useful question, because the nature of science is to change with new information. Science is wrong all the time. It is just that science admits it and moves on dogmatic religion does not.
As to an example of science being wrong and religion being right and then science changing you have auras. Pagans and other religions have believed in auras for a long time. Science initially rejected the idea, then Kirlian photography was developed and auras were proven to exist. We now know that auras are essentially electricity generated by living organisms and other objects.
Granted this is relatively unsurprising since if you have a partner and put a modest amount of effort into it you can feel the other person's aura. If you want to test it yourself find a partner go to a comfortable, quite place with few distractions, sit across from your partner and put your hands out palms up. Have them put their hands about an in or two above your hands palms down and you should be able to feel it.
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In fairness, it was completely relevant here, as social sciences were mislabeled in this thread as "soft" and completely lacking quantitative measures. This is as egregious as saying a bearded man in the sky had more impact on our species than evolution!!!!
Religion and science don't mix, so its kind of a dumb question. Science is about the material world. Religion is about the spiritual realm. The realm where religion and the material world cross more is in the areas of archeology and history, and here, critics of the Bible have been found to be wrong many times.
Wait...you think the (possible) existence of higher dimensions and string theory (however that's related) and a fluffy heaven with angels and a fiery hell with demons wielding pitchforks have anything to do with one another?
Come on. You're trying as hard as you can to play devil's advocate here, but it isn't working.
If the Mormon Church presented evidence, you'd have a point. Otherwise, it was clearly a lucky guess. This is like giving me credit for randomly circling C on a multiple choice test over a guy who thought the question out and got it wrong. It's called dumb luck.
Sorry bro.
And other than you, it seems that no religion advocates have even attempted to address the challenge. What a surprise.
Is it too hard to admit the presmise of your post is wrong? If you want to be a quality supporter of the atheist cause, you've got to practice some intellectual honesty. Religion gets many things right... but doesn't mean that everything they say is true.
There is no black and white... only shades of grey.
Psychological studies, for example, have a number of variables which cannot be controlled, making it difficult to analyze the data from such experiments, or to ask other researchers to repeat the experiment. This branch of the sciences utilizes conjecture and a more open-ended discussion, rather than sticking to clearly defined boundaries, facts, and topics, and conjectures in soft science may be unprovable with experiments and other research.
From your own source (not that wisegeek.com is an authority on anything)..."However, psychologists have also managed to stage very successful experiments to test hypotheses, and these experiments have been clearly replicable, demonstrating all the traits of hard science." Hardly sounds like "soft science" avoids quantitative measures at all.
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