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Maybe, although, what is an airline going to do if he claims it's a religious necessity? If it's a personal demand, removing him would be just applying safety rules. If it's a religious demand, removing him would be persecution. I would, though, like some kind of independent verification of this pic.
There are basic safety rules that no religious demand can overrule. Its not even the airline, but FAA rules are always followed.
In 2002, a flight crew had to prevent an ultra-Orthodox passenger, flying from Israel to Britain, from wrapping himself in plastic bags. The pilot was forced to return to Ben Gurion International airport in order to remove the passenger from the plane. The passenger, a Cohen, wrapped himself in plastic bags for fear that the plane's route would pass through the air above the Holon cemetery and he would consequently become impure.
Because of the following issue and its resolution 11 years ago:
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Rabbi Yosef Shalom Eliashiv, the leader of the Lithuanian Haredi community in Israel, published a halakhic ruling in the past stipulating that Cohens mustn't fly in this plane because they are prohibited from flying over a cemetery. Later, Rabbi Eliashiv found a solution to this issue, ruling that wrapping oneself in thick plastic bags while the plane crossed over the cemetery is permissible.
Eventually the ultra-Orthodox will outbreed the secular Jews in Israel and install a theocratic government.
In Israel it is the Haredi. They should not be confused with the Ultra Orthodox. The Haredi are part of the governing process but do believe that Israel should exist since its inception is not inline with the Torah. Explanation better suited for the Judaism forum.
In Israel it is the Haredi. They should not be confused with the Ultra Orthodox. The Haredi are part of the governing process but do believe that Israel should exist since its inception is not inline with the Torah. Explanation better suited for the Judaism forum.
There are two issues here: Terminology and the Israeli Spectrum of Judaism. I'll talk about the latter issue in the Judaism forum.
Haredi = Ultra Orthodox. Ultra-Orthodox is the term to use if you're talking to non-Jews and secular Jews. Among Jews, I would call these people Haredi. Even more confusing is that Haredi Jews call themselves "Torah Jews" as though everyone else isn't observing the Torah.
is there a specific type of bag that must be used? because parts of the plane (whatever it is made from) may qualify as a bag as it envelopes the passengers, so he won't have to get a separate bag. can he use a supermarket bag or hefty cinch sak or or from an ikea flat packed furniture (because i am going by the size and strength and that it's clear)? it looks like one of those home depot fridge bags that are used to cover it from scratches during shipping. this is so arbitrary. which kind of bag is legal?? if this is a real concern then they must sell these bags in a sanctioned store because he came prepared to don the bag. this wasn't a random act.
is there a specific type of bag that must be used?....
The question is moot as issue was related to Israel only and no longer exists in over a decade. Take off and landing routes in Israel were changed so not to fly over cemeteries.
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