Why don't we see these verses in the Bible? (church, atheist, priests)
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The OP is making some unreasonable demands -- requiring that the Bible be something it wasn't, and that it fit his/her model of ethics. You come along and mention how great your scriptures are, then...because they supposedly are more friendly in those areas. There's a reason for that.
My point was that the Bible is not politically correct. It wasn't written in the last 200 years, and doesn't reflect modern times. Joseph Smith did insert some political correctness, as you have pointed out, when he wrote the Book of Mormon. It plagiarizes quite a few passages and stories from the King James Bible. In doing so, he was rather forward-thinking for his time in some areas.
Based on what he has written, Vizio has no idea how the Book of Mormon came to exist.
Of course I do. It was "discovered" by a teenage boy. He supposedly was handed some golden plates that were translated by him sticking his head in a hat with a seer stone, which allowed him to translate them.
But I am not going to hijack this thread any further than it is. I will continue to remind the readers of this thread that I was not the one to bring up the Book of Mormon. That was done by one of the resident Mormons on the board.
Of course I do. It was "discovered" by a teenage boy. He supposedly was handed some golden plates that were translated by him sticking his head in a hat with a seer stone, which allowed him to translate them.
Wrong.
Seriously. Read up if you're going to talk about the LDS faith.
Seriously. Read up if you're going to talk about the LDS faith.
I would suggest you check with the board's resident Mormon population on that. The angel Moroni supposedly appeared to him and gave them to him to translate.
I would suggest you check with the board's resident Mormon population on that. The angel Moroni supposedly appeared to him and gave them to him to translate.
Katzpur could, I'm very sure, give an interesting discourse on how it all came about but I'm as Mormon as the Queen of England and even I know they were buried in the ground.
What you are attempting to discuss is part of the history of the LDS church. You can learn about it or you can go on thinking the plates were handed over like the morning newspaper.
Katzpur could, I'm very sure, give an interesting discourse on how it all came about but I'm as Mormon as the Queen of England and even I know they were buried in the ground.
What you are attempting to discuss is part of the history of the LDS church. You can learn about it or you can go on thinking the plates were handed over like the morning newspaper.
My apologies...you are correct. The legend is that Moroni told him where to find them, and he went and got them. Moroni then told him to begin translation.
Katzpur could, I'm very sure, give an interesting discourse on how it all came about but I'm as Mormon as the Queen of England and even I know they were buried in the ground.
I assume you mean that you know that they were PRESUMABLY buried in the ground. Acceptance that the plates ever existed isn't universal in the LDS church, and is fully rejected by the reorganized church (Community of Christ).
Besides, you're arguing semantics here. The spiel I got at a historical site this past weekend only stated that he received the stones from Moroni.
My point was that the Bible is not politically correct.
This has nothing to do with political correctness. It has to do with the fact that, as you put it yourself, the Bible is culturally and ethically backwards by modern standards, and reflects the antiquated views of its times.
Now, explain to me why a work inspired by an omnipotent, omnibenevolent being would happen to read just as if...I don't know...it were just a collection of myths written by primitive, savage men?
And quit the cultural relativity bull**** - so long as you accept that slavery is abhorrent, you cannot possibly defend the Bible's ambiguity on the issue as "wrong only from my point of view".
This has nothing to do with political correctness. It has to do with the fact that, as you put it yourself, the Bible is culturally and ethically backwards by modern standards, and reflects the antiquated views of its times.
Now, explain to me why a work inspired by an omnipotent, omnibenevolent being would happen to read just as if...I don't know...it were just a collection of myths written by primitive, savage men?
And quit the cultural relativity bull**** - so long as you accept that slavery is abhorrent, you cannot possibly defend the Bible's ambiguity on the issue as "wrong only from my point of view".
First of all, you really do need to understand what slavery was 2000 years ago. And yes....God did address slavery and required much better treatment of slaves Han any other nation in the world.
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