God is not good (Biblical, contradictions, repentance, believer)
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When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
You said that God said that it was "good" to beat a slave. I'd really like to see that verse. The one you quoted here doesn't say that. You have yet to show me that verse. Or were you lying?
You said that God said that it was "good" to beat a slave. I'd really like to see that verse. The one you quoted here doesn't say that. You have yet to show me that verse. Or were you lying?
If he is not to be punished when the slave survives for a day or two, then at least it is not bad (worthy of punishment). That which is not bad, is generally regarded as good, is it not?
I have never understood this passage. Apparently you can beat a slave to within an inch of their life, and it's even okay if they die, so long as they linger in agony for at least 24 hours. This does not strike me as something that god ought to let go unpunished if he thinks it's bad. And it is odd that god was mired in bronze age thinking, that slavery was even something that a devout person of faith should even engage in. Unless of course he is the invention of bronze age authors with bronze age assumptions.
You said that God said that it was "good" to beat a slave. I'd really like to see that verse. The one you quoted here doesn't say that. You have yet to show me that verse. Or were you lying?
If it's not bad, it's obviously good, since the owner shouldn't be punished for it.
But, might makes right, so anything the Bible God says, goes.
If it's not bad, it's obviously good, since the owner shouldn't be punished for it.
You're making assumptions that the text doesn't make.
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But, might makes right, so anything the Bible God says, goes.
Are you going to retract your statement? God never said it was good. You've been shown that he didn't. If you continue to persist in the statement it's dishonest.
If he is not to be punished when the slave survives for a day or two, then at least it is not bad (worthy of punishment). That which is not bad, is generally regarded as good, is it not?
I have never understood this passage. Apparently you can beat a slave to within an inch of their life, and it's even okay if they die, so long as they linger in agony for at least 24 hours. This does not strike me as something that god ought to let go unpunished if he thinks it's bad. And it is odd that god was mired in bronze age thinking, that slavery was even something that a devout person of faith should even engage in. Unless of course he is the invention of bronze age authors with bronze age assumptions.
We're talking about a "God" who wanted animal sacrifices and found the aroma of burnt flesh pleasing.
We're talking about a "God" who wanted animal sacrifices and found the aroma of burnt flesh pleasing.
I take your point, but I find the aroma of burnt flesh pleasing myself, particularly a good hangar steak ;-) Although I stick to locally sourced meat which hopefully was slaughtered humanely.
I'm far more concerned about god looking the other way when a slave is severely beaten and fails to prohibit owning people as property.
Christian: Is that wrong?
Atheist: Yes!
Christian: Why?
Atheist: Because I said so! It's just wrong!
Christian: Why?
Atheist: Because it is!
Christian: Why?
Atheist: Err....umm.....You're stupid!
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