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Old 11-22-2007, 10:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ST1100
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At the risk of going off topic......you are making the mistake that most Xians make in attributing those messages to Jesus. Those messages, along with many of Jesus' other 'messages', were spoken by The Buddha, some 500 years before Xianity invented their Jesus.
Why are people so intend on focusing on the messenger instead of the message?

Who cares who said what and when.
Is what is being said true?
If so, then it doesn't matter who said what and when.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ST1100 Why are people so intend on focusing on the messenger instead of the message?
Because IMO it's important to credit the original messenger with the message and not the messenger who plagiarised the message.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ST1100
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Because IMO it's important to credit the original messenger with the message and not the messenger who plagiarised the message.
So truth means nothing to you? Who cares if it was Buddha or Krishna or Jesus or Santa Claus who made you realize that life is all about sharing and not taking? The lesson is always more important than the teacher.

Originality is overrated anyways.
There are only a few original stories and the rest are all bad imitations.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:58 AM
 
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So truth means nothing to you?
Don't understand what you mean by this!

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Who cares if it was Buddha or Krishna or Jesus or Santa Claus who made you realize that life is all about sharing and not taking?
My point was that Xians consider that their Jesus was such a great man to teach such wonderful things. In reality, early Xians only plagiarised the teachings of The Buddha...... so let's give credit where it's due.
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:51 AM
 
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My point was that Xians consider that their Jesus was such a great man to teach such wonderful things. In reality, early Xians only plagiarised the teachings of The Buddha...... so let's give credit where it's due.
I do not give a damn about credits.
So when 2 people come up with the same idea, completely separate in space and time you can only come to the conclusion that one must have stolen it from the other? That it is impossible to reach the same conclusion via a different route?

Do you know the difference between plagiarism and inspiration?
Muhammad, the prophet of the Muslims, knew that his revelations weren't original. He kept his revelations a secret and only confided in his wife Khadija and her cousin Waraq ibn Nawfal, a Christian. So do you think that Muhammad plagiarised the teachings of the Jews and the Christians?
He was only peeved about the fact that the Jews and the Christians wouldn't acknowledge him as a prophet simply because he was neither a Jew nor a Christian but an Arab. Although he preached the same religious lessons to the Arabs that the Jews and Christians separately taught to their own people.
Had they accepted him into their fold I believe that there would be no Islam.
I agree with Muhammad that the teachings are important and not the teacher.
For a time Muhammad actually believed that Judaism and Christianity were the same religion, because he only saw the similarities between the two. So he was shocked when he understood that Jews and Christians did not believe that they are following the same God.
I mean how could he know that Christians and Jews were actually at each others throat, because they both believe to have faith in God except that both their religion tells them that their God cannot be the same?
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:13 AM
 
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Then why do the christians continue to negate that this message came from anyone but Jesus?

After all their god invented everything and was the first to say everything and every holiday is solely based in christianity.

Maybe that's why.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:34 AM
 
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Then why do the christians continue to negate that this message came from anyone but Jesus?
I dunno.
I don't consider myself a Christian.

Besides, religion is not my cup of thee anyway. I'm more into the workings of the human mind and conspiracies.
Personally I believe that it has more to do with the Roman Empire which usurped Christianity than the philosophy of Jesus.
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