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Old 12-13-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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This monument has been up since 1954 and now, all of a sudden, it is offensive. Atheistic America dismantling Christianity one cross at a time, all the while denying that they are on, and have been on, an anti-religious campaign across our country that won't stop until every last hint of the Christian faith has been entirely removed from public view and mind.

U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down | Reuters
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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I find it hard to understand why one's life must be so pathetic that they would be so bothered by such a thing as to file a law suit.

I also find it interesting that the "separation of church and state" that the article refers to is not actually in the constitution, as many have come to assume.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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IF taking down a cross on public land dismantles Christianity, then your faith is weak. If you need your religious icon plastered all over everything in order to believe, then your belief is built on sand.

Why do you need public land to support your personal religious belief? Aren't the thousands of churches, radio stations, television stations, newspapers, magazines, clothing companies, etc enough?

That said, I have no problem with the cross staying there, but others should also be allowed to put their icons up too.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Rivendell
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This monument has been up since 1954 and now, all of a sudden, it is offensive. Atheistic America dismantling Christianity one cross at a time, all the while denying that they are on, and have been on, an anti-religious campaign across our country that won't stop until every last hint of the Christian faith has been entirely removed from public view and mind.

U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down | Reuters
Would'nt that be nice. Imagine if people kept their religious symbols on private property, and kept their religious views in the private lives.

Nobody is trying to dismantle christianity. People who are not christians have the right to not have it shoved down their throats.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: NJ
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If "dismantling christianity" is as easy as removing a cross from public space you may want to think about why your religion is so easily done in.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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If "dismantling christianity" is as easy as removing a cross from public space you may want to think about why your religion is so easily done in.
If your unbelief is so fragile as to be bothered by a cross in public space, maybe you ought to consider why.

The fact is, the founding fathers intended for religion to be in the public square. It was for that reason that 9 of the original 13 colonies had official state religions.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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The truth is offensive.Moderator cut: delete

Last edited by Miss Blue; 12-16-2013 at 08:41 AM.. Reason: political remarks are removed
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: NJ
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If your unbelief is so fragile as to be bothered by a cross in public space, maybe you ought to consider why.

The fact is, the founding fathers intended for religion to be in the public square. It was for that reason that 9 of the original 13 colonies had official state religions.
I'm not complaining about anything. I don't really care if the cross is there or not. Zero chance it will make me feel any differently about religion. But the OP made a claim about christianity being "dismantled". Is it really that easy?
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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I find it hard to understand why one's life must be so pathetic that they would be so bothered by such a thing as to file a law suit.
Ummm.... it was above a war memorial. Not all of the men and women who have served our country are Christian. A cross is hardly representative of the Jews who died during WWII or Korea or Vietnam.

Personally I LIKE living in a country where a Jew, or anyone else, has the right to say stand up and say "That cross doesn't represent me". Of course a non-Christian would be bothered. I don't find it pathetic. It's awesome to me that our country is a place where a Jew can say, "No" based on his rights as a citizen.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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I'm not complaining about anything. I don't really care if the cross is there or not. Zero chance it will make me feel any differently about religion.
So what's the big deal? Seriously...why not live and let live?
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But the OP made a claim about christianity being "dismantled". Is it really that easy?
I think there is a definite effort among non-religious folk to attempt to dismantle it. I agree, though, that Christianity has thrived through much harsher persecution than anything the American atheist can dish out.
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