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Old 02-18-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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Jesus is definitely not mashiach. No way, no how.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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Jesus was not Son of God. God is not a physical being, and thus,God is neither male nor female. One of the reasons for this misrepresentationis due to lack of a better term in languages such as English that led to therepresentation of God as male, as there is no respectful genderless word inEnglish to indicate a persona, unlike as in some other languages. As a TrueMessenger of God, Jesus would have known better than to claim that he was Sonof God. In fact, when he was asked whether he was a son of “god,” he answeredhe was a son of a man. What did Jesus mean? How did the term “a son of a man”get misinterpreted as “Son of Man” which is further misinterpreted as “Son of God”?

If people can come to the realization that entities from outerspace have been visiting throughout human history and discern who or what that“god” was, then they can understand why Jesus’ answer to that question was thathe was a son of a man. Incidentally, figuring out who this “god(s)” is (are)would also enable people to answer the question of virgin birth. There is nosuch thing as virgin birth, unless it is by asexual organisms. So how did the “virginmother” of Jesus conceive her child? Were there two different versions of Jesus– the true Jesus who was the Messenger of that era and the false Jesus born of“virgin” mother inseminated by “god”? Then the two stories became interwoven asthe story of one man, and eventually the much confused and tainted stories werewritten down as the books of the New Testament in the bible? Jesus’ answer wasthen that he was not a human-alien hybrid, but an offspring of a human man.

Perhaps you can see then which stories belonged to the false Jesuswho was able to perform “miracles” through the ET technology which still baffleand bewilder human beings to this date, and the true Jesus whose teachingsresonate deep within people’s hearts for millennia though his parables haveoften become misunderstood through direct translations. Unfortunately now, manypeople associate Jesus with the “miracles” that the false Jesus had performed.This expectation of people is what the current ET Intervention will exploit inpresenting a false Jesus, a human-alien hybrid bred by the ET Intervention, inthe staged “Second Coming.”

The Hebrew people were unfortunate victims of these “gods” thatchose the race to manufacture human-alien hybrids then that would work forthem. More precisely, those “gods” were extraterrestrials that presentedthemselves as God to the naïve human beings throughout human history,instructing them to worship them and make offerings of human bodies/blood tothemselves – resources that they never ceased to seek even these days. It takesexercising much discernment to see. There are purportedly many “virgin births”and “sexless pregnancy” as well as “disappearance” of fetus mid pregnancy inthese modern days with an increasing number of reports of alien abductioncases. The whole human race is now the “chosen race” that is chosen by the ETsin creating human-alien hybrids that will assist the ETs in conquering theworld covertly. Parenthetically, the term “chosen race” is a misnomer as thesetechnologically advanced, self-serving extraterrestrial races have beentraveling through space and carrying out similar activities exploiting naïve nativesof worlds wherever they could in the local universe.

So the Jesus was not "Son of God" but God’s Messenger ofthat era. God’s Messengers have been sent into the world at critical times inhuman history in order to provide guidance and teaching through God’s Messageand to initiate and usher humanity into a new era. What set Jesus apart fromother people was that he had reclaimed his Higher Self (a.k.a., True Self, HolySpirit, Spiritual Intelligence, Knowledge,…) within himself and allowed it toexpress itself, and thus, fulfilling his mission in this world. Thisreclamation of one’s Higher Self is possible for all of us, though it remainsdormant and only as a potential except for a few individuals who are aware ofit, desire it, and devote their life with dedication in reclaiming it.

All Messengers of God lived a normal life tasting sorrow and joyuntil their mission and identities were revealed to them. Some people have erroneouslyregarded Jesus as “perfect,” a status no being can achieve while in a physicalstate. To live as a physical being is to make errors. Indeed, even afterindividuals have reclaimed Holy Spirit within them, they may continue to makeerrors, though to a lesser extent. In a way, it is necessary to make errors toa certain extent so that people may learn from their own errors and from other people’serrors as well. It is part of becoming assimilated to the world into which eachone of us has come to serve and of learning of the difficulties in the physicalreality so that understanding of themselves, others, and the world can bedeveloped. This will then foster inpeople a greater capacity for compassion, tolerance, humility, patience, and forgiveness.

The purpose of God’s Messengers (the Buddha, the Jesus, theMuhammad, and Marshall Vian) for coming into the world is not to alter theworld based on their idealism or eradicate all the sufferings and injusticewithin it, as changing the world in such a manner would engender controlling itto a great degree. That is not what God does, and that is not what theMessengers of God do. The purpose of the world and the physical reality is notfor people to turn it into a paradise. The physical reality is not a permanentreality in which the Separation from God can be made complete, or that can beturned into Heaven. It is a temporary place for people to learn and tocontribute so that they may redeem themselves on their journey back to God.Thus, the physical reality has been and will always be a temporary place withdifficulties and pains. Those who do not understand the purpose of the physicalreality or their own purpose within it may fall into despondency imputing allits predicaments and tragedies to lack of God’s concern or love or even as theresult or proof of absence of God. Yet,God's love is demonstrated in the Messages that God's Messengers have broughtinto the world.

God’s Will has been translated to the Angelic Assembly who watchesover the well-being and advancement of this world and others. One would bechosen and sent into the world to receive God’s Message from the AngelicAssembly. The Holy Trinity was then Jesus, Knowledge (Holy Spirit), and theAngelic Assembly. The Angelic Assembly is neither God nor Jesus’ biologicalfather or spiritual father. That is a misunderstanding or mistranslation. Jesusreclaimed Holy Spirit (Knowledge) within himself and was guided by Holy Spirit(Knowledge) to receive God’s Message from the Angelic Assembly. Through hisexample, his teaching, and his emphasis on spreading the God’s Message that hebrought into the world, the world has slowly transformed into a globalized onefrom a tribal-oriented one, though not without many errors and sometimes,through very grave errors. Through hisMessage, many people find common ground to connect with each other, who couldnot otherwise find much else in common with one another.

Jesus, as the Messenger of his era, was an individual who came intothe world to usher humanity into a new era, the Era of Civilization which isnow coming to an end. The human race is again at a critical time transitioninginto a new era – the era in which it must contend with intelligent beings fromouter space. It is yet to be seen whether humanity can recognize thiscollectively, unite for the common purpose of thwarting the ET Intervention,and emerge into the Great Community of Worlds as a strong, independent, freerace or it fails to recognize this, continues to remain conflicted and dividedamong itself, and becomes subjugated by foreign races from outer space. Duringthe difficult transition which has already begun, human beings would face manyevents of the Great Waves of Change that would seem to converge at this timeand overwhelm them beyond their expectations. In the interim, the ETIntervention has already taken its covert invasion to a mature phase andwaiting for the human civilizations to begin collapsing in order to presentthemselves as a savior to “save” the human race from the calamity that theyhelped to create or even instigated.

It is this turning point, a globally difficult time for humanitythat God would send a Messenger into the world again to guide and preparehumanity for the future through God's Message.

Jesus said: When you pray say -- Our Father
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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Jesus said: When you pray say -- Our Father
Do you truly believe that no word of the bible was ever mistranslated, misinterpreted, edited intentionally, deleted, or added?
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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Jesus is definitely not mashiach. No way, no how.
Have you ever considered how wickedness, sin, and heresy could be ended and what sort of rewards the "righteous" would receive? It would be a misunderstanding to expect that someone will come to put an end to wickedness, sin, and heresy and reward the righteous, for redemption is up to each individual by reclaiming God's Gift that is already within themselves waiting to be discovered and cultivated. Heaven is, indeed, already within you.
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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That does not answer the question of this thread.

Jesus did not fulfill the mashiach prophecies. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the mashiach (he was not even related to King David no matter how much the heretics tried to fabricate that).

Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad.
Hear O Israel, The LORD is our God, the LORD is One.
-Deuteronomy 6:4

If God is one, how can Jesus and the Holy Spirit also be God? God is one, unique, and most importantly indivisible. Also, if he was to be of the line of David, how can God be a son of David? THE DIVINITY OF JESUS MAKES NO SENSE.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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Jesus was not Son of God. God is not a physical being, and thus,God is neither male nor female. One of the reasons for this misrepresentationis due to lack of a better term in languages such as English that led to therepresentation of God as male, as there is no respectful genderless word inEnglish to indicate a persona, unlike as in some other languages. As a TrueMessenger of God, Jesus would have known better than to claim that he was Sonof God. In fact, when he was asked whether he was a son of “god,” he answeredhe was a son of a man. What did Jesus mean? How did the term “a son of a man”get misinterpreted as “Son of Man” which is further misinterpreted as “Son of God”?

If people can come to the realization that entities from outerspace have been visiting throughout human history and discern who or what that“god” was, then they can understand why Jesus’ answer to that question was thathe was a son of a man. Incidentally, figuring out who this “god(s)” is (are)would also enable people to answer the question of virgin birth. There is nosuch thing as virgin birth, unless it is by asexual organisms. So how did the “virginmother” of Jesus conceive her child? Were there two different versions of Jesus– the true Jesus who was the Messenger of that era and the false Jesus born of“virgin” mother inseminated by “god”? Then the two stories became interwoven asthe story of one man, and eventually the much confused and tainted stories werewritten down as the books of the New Testament in the bible? Jesus’ answer wasthen that he was not a human-alien hybrid, but an offspring of a human man.

Perhaps you can see then which stories belonged to the false Jesuswho was able to perform “miracles” through the ET technology which still baffleand bewilder human beings to this date, and the true Jesus whose teachingsresonate deep within people’s hearts for millennia though his parables haveoften become misunderstood through direct translations. Unfortunately now, manypeople associate Jesus with the “miracles” that the false Jesus had performed.This expectation of people is what the current ET Intervention will exploit inpresenting a false Jesus, a human-alien hybrid bred by the ET Intervention, inthe staged “Second Coming.”

The Hebrew people were unfortunate victims of these “gods” thatchose the race to manufacture human-alien hybrids then that would work forthem. More precisely, those “gods” were extraterrestrials that presentedthemselves as God to the naïve human beings throughout human history,instructing them to worship them and make offerings of human bodies/blood tothemselves – resources that they never ceased to seek even these days. It takesexercising much discernment to see. There are purportedly many “virgin births”and “sexless pregnancy” as well as “disappearance” of fetus mid pregnancy inthese modern days with an increasing number of reports of alien abductioncases. The whole human race is now the “chosen race” that is chosen by the ETsin creating human-alien hybrids that will assist the ETs in conquering theworld covertly. Parenthetically, the term “chosen race” is a misnomer as thesetechnologically advanced, self-serving extraterrestrial races have beentraveling through space and carrying out similar activities exploiting naïve nativesof worlds wherever they could in the local universe.

So the Jesus was not "Son of God" but God’s Messenger ofthat era. God’s Messengers have been sent into the world at critical times inhuman history in order to provide guidance and teaching through God’s Messageand to initiate and usher humanity into a new era. What set Jesus apart fromother people was that he had reclaimed his Higher Self (a.k.a., True Self, HolySpirit, Spiritual Intelligence, Knowledge,…) within himself and allowed it toexpress itself, and thus, fulfilling his mission in this world. Thisreclamation of one’s Higher Self is possible for all of us, though it remainsdormant and only as a potential except for a few individuals who are aware ofit, desire it, and devote their life with dedication in reclaiming it.

All Messengers of God lived a normal life tasting sorrow and joyuntil their mission and identities were revealed to them. Some people have erroneouslyregarded Jesus as “perfect,” a status no being can achieve while in a physicalstate. To live as a physical being is to make errors. Indeed, even afterindividuals have reclaimed Holy Spirit within them, they may continue to makeerrors, though to a lesser extent. In a way, it is necessary to make errors toa certain extent so that people may learn from their own errors and from other people’serrors as well. It is part of becoming assimilated to the world into which eachone of us has come to serve and of learning of the difficulties in the physicalreality so that understanding of themselves, others, and the world can bedeveloped. This will then foster inpeople a greater capacity for compassion, tolerance, humility, patience, and forgiveness.

The purpose of God’s Messengers (the Buddha, the Jesus, theMuhammad, and Marshall Vian) for coming into the world is not to alter theworld based on their idealism or eradicate all the sufferings and injusticewithin it, as changing the world in such a manner would engender controlling itto a great degree. That is not what God does, and that is not what theMessengers of God do. The purpose of the world and the physical reality is notfor people to turn it into a paradise. The physical reality is not a permanentreality in which the Separation from God can be made complete, or that can beturned into Heaven. It is a temporary place for people to learn and tocontribute so that they may redeem themselves on their journey back to God.Thus, the physical reality has been and will always be a temporary place withdifficulties and pains. Those who do not understand the purpose of the physicalreality or their own purpose within it may fall into despondency imputing allits predicaments and tragedies to lack of God’s concern or love or even as theresult or proof of absence of God. Yet,God's love is demonstrated in the Messages that God's Messengers have broughtinto the world.

God’s Will has been translated to the Angelic Assembly who watchesover the well-being and advancement of this world and others. One would bechosen and sent into the world to receive God’s Message from the AngelicAssembly. The Holy Trinity was then Jesus, Knowledge (Holy Spirit), and theAngelic Assembly. The Angelic Assembly is neither God nor Jesus’ biologicalfather or spiritual father. That is a misunderstanding or mistranslation. Jesusreclaimed Holy Spirit (Knowledge) within himself and was guided by Holy Spirit(Knowledge) to receive God’s Message from the Angelic Assembly. Through hisexample, his teaching, and his emphasis on spreading the God’s Message that hebrought into the world, the world has slowly transformed into a globalized onefrom a tribal-oriented one, though not without many errors and sometimes,through very grave errors. Through hisMessage, many people find common ground to connect with each other, who couldnot otherwise find much else in common with one another.

Jesus, as the Messenger of his era, was an individual who came intothe world to usher humanity into a new era, the Era of Civilization which isnow coming to an end. The human race is again at a critical time transitioninginto a new era – the era in which it must contend with intelligent beings fromouter space. It is yet to be seen whether humanity can recognize thiscollectively, unite for the common purpose of thwarting the ET Intervention,and emerge into the Great Community of Worlds as a strong, independent, freerace or it fails to recognize this, continues to remain conflicted and dividedamong itself, and becomes subjugated by foreign races from outer space. Duringthe difficult transition which has already begun, human beings would face manyevents of the Great Waves of Change that would seem to converge at this timeand overwhelm them beyond their expectations. In the interim, the ETIntervention has already taken its covert invasion to a mature phase andwaiting for the human civilizations to begin collapsing in order to presentthemselves as a savior to “save” the human race from the calamity that theyhelped to create or even instigated.

It is this turning point, a globally difficult time for humanitythat God would send a Messenger into the world again to guide and preparehumanity for the future through God's Message.
FALSE DOCTRINE! Jesus issued a stark warning: DO NOT BE DECEIVED!! - This is deception!

How do I know that? Simply because it contradicts the Holy Word of God recorded in the Bible.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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That does not answer the question of this thread.

Jesus did not fulfill the mashiach prophecies. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the mashiach (he was not even related to King David no matter how much the heretics tried to fabricate that).

Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad.
Hear O Israel, The LORD is our God, the LORD is One.
-Deuteronomy 6:4

If God is one, how can Jesus and the Holy Spirit also be God? God is one, unique, and most importantly indivisible. Also, if he was to be of the line of David, how can God be a son of David? THE DIVINITY OF JESUS MAKES NO SENSE.

It was the Angel that spoke to Mary and said:Luke 1:30

The angel told her,

“Don’t be afraid, Mary. You have found favor[a] with God.
31 You will become pregnant, give birth to a son,
and name him Jesus.
32 He will be a great man
and will be called the Son of the Most High.
The Lord God will give him
the throne of his ancestor David.
33 Your son will be king of Jacob’s people forever,
and his kingdom will never end.”

Jesus' question in Luke 20:41-44 brings out a difficulty that the leading Jews had concerning the nature of the Messiah. "And He said to them, "How can they say that the Christ is the Son of David? Now David himself said in the Book of Psalms: 'The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."' Therefore David calls Him 'Lord'; how is He then his Son?"" (Luke 20:41-44).

Since the leading Jews refused to believe that Jesus was the Messiah, Jesus asked them whose son was the Christ (Matthew 22:41-42). They answered that he would be the son of David. Mark 12:35 points out that this is as the scribes had been teaching the people. Jesus then asks them how David, in Psalm 110:1, could call the Messiah his Lord when the Messiah was his descendant. The word "Lord" is reserved for a person who is over the person, yet a descendant would normally be seen as under the ancestor. In asking, Jesus rules out a mistake on David’s part by emphasizing that David spoke these words by the inspiration of the Spirit of God.

The answer to Jesus’ question is clear if one accepts that the Messiah was superior to David because of his divine nature. Yet, those Jesus was addressing would not accept that God could be born in human form, thus they could not determine an answer to Jesus’ question. In other words, their expectation concerning the Messiah was less than what the Scriptures indicted.

Please stop and refrain from using "human reasoning" - Let Gods Word guide you in all truth!!

Notice: in Psalm 2 - The Father speaks - The Son speaks - The Holy Spirit speaks These three (Elohim) are ONE.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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That does not answer the question of this thread.

Jesus did not fulfill the mashiach prophecies. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the mashiach (he was not even related to King David no matter how much the heretics tried to fabricate that).

Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad.
Hear O Israel, The LORD is our God, the LORD is One.
-Deuteronomy 6:4

If God is one, how can Jesus and the Holy Spirit also be God? God is one, unique, and most importantly indivisible. Also, if he was to be of the line of David, how can God be a son of David? THE DIVINITY OF JESUS MAKES NO SENSE.
It seems that you have erroneously established a set of criteria for "personal qualifications" for whomever you're waiting for. Whom you're waiting for is yourself. God has already saved you by placing Holy Spirit within you. That is God's Gift to each sentient being. That is the only permanent part of you, the only part of you that has never left God. Though it remains as only a potential within most to be discovered, some have reclaimed and cultivated it so that it can express itself in the world.

God is God of all universes (of which the physical universe, as vast as it is, is only a small fraction) and in all dimensions. Can you imagine God of this scale? Can you expand your perspective? The human race is but one race among countless many species of intelligent beings in the physical universe. God does not micromanage any one cell, any one individual, any one race, or any one world. All that is within the physical universe is allowed to evolve and develop on its own. God rarely ever intervenes. Yet, at critical times in human history, a Messenger of God would be sent into the world to receive God's Revelation. At some point in the Messenger's life, when he is ready, he would be prepared to reclaim Holy Spirit within himself. The Angelic Assembly, a part of hierarchy in God that watches over the well-being and development of this world as well as others, would reveal God's Message to the Messenger. Through the Messenger's voice, the Message will be spoken. When the Messenger yields to Holy Spirit within himself and yields to the Angelic Assembly to allow the Angelic Presence to speak God's Revelation through him, such state is what has been called Holy Trinity.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:34 PM
 
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FALSE DOCTRINE! Jesus issued a stark warning: DO NOT BE DECEIVED!! - This is deception!

How do I know that? Simply because it contradicts the Holy Word of God recorded in the Bible.
All holy books have been changed, modified, mistranslated, and/or misunderstood. Look and listen deep within yourself. You're not so naïve as to believe otherwise.
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Please stop and refrain from using "human reasoning" - Let Gods Word guide you in all truth!!
Yes, please do.
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