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Old 06-10-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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The scientists claim that new bacteria are appearing and they are resistant to some of our current antibiotics.

People who believe in evolution are not surprised by this. They think existing bacteria mutate and evolve to create new types of bacteria, just like some ape-like creatures mutated and evolved to create you.

What do evolution deniers think about this? How are the new and more deadly types of bacteria being created? Is your god creating them?
They are still bacteria. They are bacteria that are losing the ability to be affected by the antibiotics. You can call them a new strain, or species...but they are still bacteria. Does God directly want them to do that? I would have to say yes--because it happens. Nothing happens without God's approval.
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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...snip... Nothing happens without God's approval.
Even sin?
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It's still a bacteria.
That is like saying cats and whales are the same because they are both mammals.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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The scientists claim that new bacteria are appearing and they are resistant to some of our current antibiotics.

People who believe in evolution are not surprised by this. They think existing bacteria mutate and evolve to create new types of bacteria, just like some ape-like creatures mutated and evolved to create you.

What do evolution deniers think about this? How are the new and more deadly types of bacteria being created? Is your god creating them?
Bacteria or no bacteria, you will die anyway. We ALL will have to die and that's the promise of God.

Every living being must taste death; and We test you with harm and with good, a trial; and to Us only you have to return. Qur'an 21:35

God has given you life and he will take it away, and you can't do anything about it.

If you have ANY power on yourself then try to avoid death, ... lol forget death ... if you feel you are not a subject to anything then try not to blink for a couple of days.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:45 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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They are still bacteria. They are bacteria that are losing the ability to be affected by the antibiotics. You can call them a new strain, or species...but they are still bacteria. Does God directly want them to do that? I would have to say yes--because it happens. Nothing happens without God's approval.

You truly just don't understand science at all. Rather than making yourself aware of what and how it operates, you make these type of statements that just keep proving your ignorance of the subject matter.

Are you afraid you may find out that something based on science may damage your faith? Why else would you refuse to try and understand science?
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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You can call them a new strain, or species...but they are still bacteria. Does God directly want them to do that? I would have to say yes--because it happens.
OK, that is a clear answer, I think. It appears that you believe that a new species of bacteria has been created and that your god did it on purpose.

Does it bother you to believe that your god would create a new life form with a special ability to kill us off?
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:54 PM
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OK, that is a clear answer, I think. It appears that you believe that a new species of bacteria has been created and that your god did it on purpose.

Does it bother you to believe that your god would create a new life form with a special ability to kill us off?
That is not what he believes - he believes that God allowed or created bacteria to evolve within a certain range - that range still being classified as 'bacteria.' He actually believes in evolution which he would say is micro-evolution.

Of course he can't and won't be able to define the boundary nor will he be able to tell us what the original 'kinds' were so that we could actually test it and falsify this stupid 'kind' game.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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They are still bacteria. They are bacteria that are losing the ability to be affected by the antibiotics. You can call them a new strain, or species...but they are still bacteria. Does God directly want them to do that? I would have to say yes--because it happens. Nothing happens without God's approval.
First off, they aren't losing the ability to be effected by antibiotics. They're gaining the ability not to be, which is consistent with evolution.

And nothing happens without God's approval? The holocaust? A mad man, whom He presumably created, committed institutionalized, industrialized mass murder on God's chosen people, the Jews, and you're going to tell me God okayed this?

Also, evolution doesn't mean bacteria stops being bacteria and becomes something else. I'm assuming you don't realize how many different kinds of bacteria there are. If it changes to a new bacteria, but still is bacteria, that's evolution. Just like apes turning into hairless apes (human beings) is still evolution, even though we are still animals.

You clearly don't understand evolution, and you should always try to come into a debate situations informed.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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First off, they aren't losing the ability to be effected by antibiotics. They're gaining the ability not to be, which is consistent with evolution.
That is like saying a person that drinks heavily over time isn't losing the ability to be effected by alcohol, they are gaining the ability not to be effected by alcohol, so that is evolution. Bogus. They are not evolving but adapting by developing a resistance to the antibiotics.

It is the same principle of acclimation. If you are use to working in 70 degree weather and all the sudden find yourself working in 100 degree weather, you body has to adapt to the change in temperature by a process of adaptation called acclimating. It doesn't evolve into a different species, it merely responds to the variables.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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For evolution deniers: Does your god create new types of bacteria to kill us?
I'll go you one better: does God create a killer virus to wipe out gays?

Yes, according to Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell: AIDS.

Does God then create a cure for the killer virus He created to wipe out all the gays?

Yes, according to scientists and doctors: antiretrovirals.

Now the gays have a magic bullet that essentially "cures" AIDS so they resume their sinful promiscuous lifestyle and God is right back to square one like He was in 1980 when AIDS first surfaced. But God has not come up with another gay killer virus since the introduction of antiretrovirals to replace AIDS.

Is God great or what?!
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