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How is it not off topic?? I don't remember reading Darwin's book "The Origin of Life". Only "The Origin of Species".
Well, how can you separate them? The "origin of life" would have to be part of the evolutionary process, would it not? How can it be a separate thing when we are not factoring in supernatural powers or events?
Well, let's see if you can do better then him, then.
Here are a few of the points he mentioned..
Thoughts?
Yes I have a thought on this cg81.... my thought is that those aren't his thoughts at all. They're someones elses. Don't believe me??? Copy this particular post (that you referenced, by the way) into Google and see what comes up. Actually.... try some other ones and see what happens. He's just a random copy and paster who can't develop his own arguments.
So here you go, try this one:
Since abiogenesis is so clearly false, most evolutionists want to separate it from the theory of evolution. They want to start with a living cell and proceed from there. But that is cheating. You have to start at the starting line. You have to start with a dead planet that naturally and spontaneously produces the first living thing. -Malcolan
The reason why there are debates about evolutionary topics is because the things being discussed are matters of opinion, not scientific facts. Somebody finds a part of a jaw and thinks it came from a human ancestor. A second scientist (who usually has also discovered a part of a jaw, which he claims came from a human ancestor) says the first scientist is wrong. There is more ego involved than evidence. Objectivity is distorted by the desire (perhaps even the need) to have bragging rights. Do-While Jones
Here's the link to this article. Look at response number 5. I believe it's the second paragraph on that particular response. No Nonsense
"The "origin of life" would have to be part of the evolutionary process, would it not?"
What is your reasoning here?
From "A" to "Z", there are steps. There have to be, if you believe in evolution. Well, if "A" is nothing, dead, it would have to go thru a process or step which would bring it to "B" - something with life. Since it's all something that happens naturally, I see no reason why we would exclude this step from the evolutionary process. In fact, it would be the most important evolutionary step ever, yet appears largely ignored!
From "A" to "Z", there are steps. There have to be, if you believe in evolution. Well, if "A" is nothing, dead, it would have to go thru a process or step which would bring it to "B" - something with life. Since it's all something that happens naturally, I see no reason why we would exclude this step from the evolutionary process. In fact, it would be the most important evolutionary step ever, yet appears largely ignored!
Actually it is not largely ignored, it is just unknown at the moment so all we can do is speculate on what happened. Some might say it's God, some may say it happened naturally via some chemical process, and some may say aliens did it (which only drives the process back further). However, it detracts nothing away from the evolutionary process itself. It's like two separate entities.
Actually it is not largely ignored, it is just unknown at the moment so all we can do is speculate on what happened. Some might say it's God, some may say it happened naturally via some chemical process, and some may say aliens did it (which only drives the process back further). However, it detracts nothing away from the evolutionary process itself. It's like two separate entities.
The thing is... do you think it will ever be solved scientifically, since for something to come from nothing, or life from dead matter, is completely against scientific laws? I guess that would leave me with more questions... That, to me, is way more important than how WE got here (evolution vs creation). What created life? Even tho they are separated in the world of science, yet they are very much related to each other. For instance, since I believe in God, I believe He created life and the universe. But if we don't believe in God, we can't assign a supernatural event preceding the evolutionary process... it has to happen "naturally". Very interesting... sorry for my muddled thoughts.
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