God's Law (OT) - Is it actually the law of the heart? (bible, quote)
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Moderator cut: Orphaned You have been told numerous times that Jesus revealed a Different God than the one our ignorant primitive and barbaric ancestors believed Him to be. You pretend that did not happen and continue to pursue your vendetta against Christ and His God of agape love in deliberate ignorance. The barbaric beliefs of our ancestors are unfortunate . . . but they are NOT accurate and your continued suggestion that they are is tiresome.
You need to grow up, son.
Jesus made the new law. The new covenant is the same as the old one. In the old one, the Jews were FORCED to give YHWH credit for all things holy and good. They were to shower him with love and respect, even though YHWHW was CLEARLY an immoral God of murder, genocide and slavery.
Jesus's covenant is same as the old. The new covenant is now EVERYONE MUST love YHWH with all our hearts and minds, and give HIM credit for all things miraculous and holy. Jesus' Father/God is YHWH. Jesus was a DEVOUT Jew.
Jesus's law was that all people of the world MUST love YHWHW with all our hearts and minds. Then he performed all kinds of miracles on his behalf, giving him praise and credit for it all.
Moderator cut: Orphaned You have been told numerous times that Jesus revealed a Different God than the one our ignorant primitive and barbaric ancestors believed Him to be. You pretend that did not happen and continue to pursue your vendetta against Christ and His God of agape love in deliberate ignorance. The barbaric beliefs of our ancestors are unfortunate . . . but they are NOT accurate and your continued suggestion that they are is tiresome.
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Originally Posted by Rider's Pantheon
Jesus's law was that all people of the world MUST love YHWHW with all our hearts and minds. Then he performed all kinds of miracles on his behalf, giving him praise and credit for it all.
Pretending that you do not understand what Christ revealed about God may support your need to denigrate Jews and Christ to satisfy your personal animus . . . but it it obvious. Jesus promoted love of God as HE revealed Him to be . . . NOT as our ignorant ancestors believed Him to be. Whatever propels your animus toward Jews and Christians is not knowledge or understanding of Christ and His message.
Pretending that you do not understand what Christ revealed about God may support your need to denigrate Jews and Christ to satisfy your personal animus . . . but it it obvious. Jesus promoted love of God as HE revealed Him to be . . . NOT as our ignorant ancestors believed Him to be. Whatever propels your animus toward Jews and Christians is not knowledge or understanding of Christ and His message.
Jesus = YHWH. According to all of Christianity. YHWH is the assumed Father/God. It was God(YHWH) that told Abraham to murder an innocent child, it was God(YHWH) That told Moses to kill innocent people, it was God(YHWH) who performed all those miracles. Jesus mad NO BONES ABOUT IT. You claim Jesus represented a different God, when HE DID NO SUCH THING! If he represented a different God, why did he not condemn YHWH and the Prophets? Jesus made it clear how "important" it was to know the scriptures. He was a DEVOUT JEW.
Pretending that you do not understand what Christ revealed about God may support your need to denigrate Jews and Christ to satisfy your personal animus . . . but it it obvious. Jesus promoted love of God as HE revealed Him to be . . . NOT as our ignorant ancestors believed Him to be. Whatever propels your animus toward Jews and Christians is not knowledge or understanding of Christ and His message.
I am not pretending ANYTHING. You are the one pretending that Jesus did not perform all his miracles ON YHWH's, Moses's, and Abraham's behalf. He empowered them.
ALL Christians worship Moses's God as Jesus directed them. Jesus made the law that we all MUST love God with all our hearts and minds. What God do Christians worship? YHWH
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Pretending that you do not understand what Christ revealed about God may support your need to denigrate Jews and Christ to satisfy your personal animus . . . but it it obvious. Jesus promoted love of God as HE revealed Him to be . . . NOT as our ignorant ancestors believed Him to be. Whatever propels your animus toward Jews and Christians is not knowledge or understanding of Christ and His message.
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Originally Posted by Rider's Pantheon
Jesus = YHWH. According to all of Christianity. YHWH is the assumed Father/God. It was God(YHWH) that told Abraham to murder an innocent child, it was God(YHWH) That told Moses to kill innocent people, it was God(YHWH) who performed all those miracles. Jesus mad NO BONES ABOUT IT. You claim Jesus represented a different God, when HE DID NO SUCH THING! If he represented a different God, why did he not condemn YHWH and the Prophets? Jesus made it clear how "important" it was to know the scriptures. He was a DEVOUT JEW.
Our ignorant ancestors believed those things . . . NOT Christ. The God He revealed was a God of love. Christ smote no one and endured horrendous scourging and crucifixion while loveing even His torturers and murderers. Your Buddha never had to endure any such external pain and suffering while maintaining pure maitri. You would persecute Christ yet again on behalf of your misguided belief in the OT ignorance of our ancestors. There is no enlightenment in you . . . just hatred for Jews and Christ who you unjustly condemn . . . as did the Jews and Romans..
If we are to believe what you say Mystic, does it mean that the Old Testament must be ignored? If the god in it did not really commit the actions that are described and all that should be dismissed, is it not the ultimate act of cherry-picking to believe any of it?
Or do you think that OT god underwent some kind of dramatic personality change?
Our ignorant ancestors believed those things . . . NOT Christ. The God He revealed was a God of love. Christ smote no one and endured horrendous scourging and crucifixion while loveing even His torturers and murderers. Your Buddha never had to endure any such external pain and suffering while maintaining pure maitri. You would persecute Christ yet again on behalf of your misguided belief in the OT ignorance of our ancestors. There is no enlightenment in you . . . just hatred for Jews and Christ who you unjustly condemn . . . as did the Jews and Romans..
You are so willing to keep blinders on. Jesus put a veil over your eyes, and you refuse to see the truth that is right before your eyes. Christians worship the God of the OT BECAUSE of Jesus. Jesus had nothing but the ut-most respect for the laws that had put countless people to death. Moses made the law to put to death anyone picking up sticks on a certain day of the week, and to kill all gays, and Jesus taught that all of those REDICULOUS laws are to be respected. Jesus leads everyone to the immoral "God" of murder and terrorism.
ALL Christians deem Abraham a hero prophet with great faith, because he was sooo willing to gut his own innocent child because a voice in Heaven told him to. They think well of Abraham, and give total respect to a voice in Heaven that tells his people to murder innocent people- because of JESUS. It is because of Jesus the immoral God of murder and terrorism is worshipped by ALL CHRISTIANS. WAKE UP!!
Our ignorant ancestors believed those things . . . NOT Christ. The God He revealed was a God of love. Christ smote no one and endured horrendous scourging and crucifixion while loving even His torturers and murderers. Your Buddha never had to endure any such external pain and suffering while maintaining pure maitri. You would persecute Christ yet again on behalf of your misguided belief in the OT ignorance of our ancestors. There is no enlightenment in you . . . just hatred for Jews and Christ who you unjustly condemn . . . as did the Jews and Romans..
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Originally Posted by old_cold
If we are to believe what you say Mystic, does it mean that the Old Testament must be ignored? If the god in it did not really commit the actions that are described and all that should be dismissed, is it not the ultimate act of cherry-picking to believe any of it?
Or do you think that OT god underwent some kind of dramatic personality change?
The OT prepared our ignorant, savage and barbaric ancestors for Christ. It promoted self-control through fear of God (the beginning of wisdom) . . . but testified of Christ who would lift the veil of ignorance and savagery over the OT. It is properly dividing the scriptures . . . NOT treating them as if they were 100% the word of God. They are NOT. Christ is the Living Word of God and they testify of HIM, period. They are USEFUL for instruction . . . NOT inerrant or infallible. They MUST be properly divided.
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