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If by 'active spirit' you mean directives from God, and It is hard to see what else you mean, that is all you need for trying to impose religious based authority on the rest of us
No, it is not all that is needed: what else is needed is a spirit of domination, which is essentially the opposite of love.
I would suggest that it is terribly easy to fall into the trap of doing domination under the belief that you are doing it out of love.
Historically, that IS what was done.
''You don't believe in Jesus?''
''That's ok, we will have mercy on you and torture you until you do, if not, we will have pity on you and send you to the next world and perhaps your sacrifice will save you.''
And it was all done out of love and compassion. Yes, it was all done in a more cruel and ignorant age, but there is absolutely nothing I have seen in the talk and attitudes of SOME FEW religious people - and I have a theory that Reasonable and Tolerant people in any organization can be pushed out by the extremists on the grounds that their weak and lily -livered vacillations are holding the movement back - that in this century they would be quite willing to do something very similar, if they had enough power to get away with it.
The populace should note the middle east for one and take warning that such power is what Some Religious persons should not be allowed to get.
No, it is not all that is needed: what else is needed is a spirit of domination, which is essentially the opposite of love.
you do realize that this is exactly what Christians did to the Native Americans of this land and caused many thousands of deaths with their so-called Christian love.
And it was all done out of love and compassion. Yes, it was all done in a more cruel and ignorant age, but there is absolutely nothing I have seen in the talk and attitudes of SOME FEW religious people - and I have a theory that Reasonable and Tolerant people in any organization can be pushed out by the extremists on the grounds that their weak and lily -livered vacillations are holding the movement back - that in this century they would be quite willing to do something very similar, if they had enough power to get away with it.
The populace should note the middle east for one and take warning that such power is what Some Religious persons should not be allowed to get.
Of course that is true, and we thought we had evolved so much before the Holocaust, and Martin Luther was used to get the attitudes ripe for doing just that. What was it?
About 100 million who died as a result?
I am quite sure that the same mentality is in the hearts of many, I wonder what percentage of Christians would agree to wipe out Islam, or Atheists?
Damn your eyes.
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And it would be if you believed that it was an act of love to make them do what God wanted, even if they didn't want to.
Back to my statement about control NOT being love. How hard is that? That institutional Christianity has not followed what is inherent in the teachings OF Christianity is not a reflection on those teachings, ptsum, but on the hypocrisy of those who administered the religion and those who claimed to follow it.
IMO, the only reason Christianity is now swinging around to "it's all about love" is that force is no longer a commonly accepted way of making people see the light, so to speak, and therefore some new temptation is needed.
We have gotten more touchy-feely now, so now Christianity is trying to say that what's superior about it is that somehow their God is more loving than other gods/belief systems.
It's the simple evolution of religious marketing, IMO.
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that Reasonable and Tolerant people in any organization can be pushed out by the extremists on the grounds that their weak and lily -livered vacillations are holding the movement back - that in this century they would be quite willing to do something very similar, if they had enough power to get away with it.
