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Looks to me like a clear example of breaking the law and having to pay a penalty for it.
Yes, I agree. It is "a clear example of breaking the law" as long as the decoration requested by the gay couple is reasonable.
If the gay couple wanted a normal wedding cake with two women or two men on it, the baker should have done it. If they wanted a religious symbol added to the cake, the baker should have done it.
If they wanted an inscription like "God blesses gay marriage", then I think the baker could refuse to write that because the baker does not believe it. But I have never seen a wedding cake with an inscription like that, so I very much doubt that was what they requested.
If anyone is concerned that a business will be taken advantage of they shouldn't me. It is very hard to prove a discrimination case. A person can't just say that they were discriminated against, it takes a lot more than that. Even when a person is obviously a victim of discrimination it still is not that easy to make a case against someone.
If anyone is concerned that a business will be taken advantage of they shouldn't me. It is very hard to prove a discrimination case. A person can't just say that they were discriminated against, it takes a lot more than that. Even when a person is obviously a victim of discrimination it still is not that easy to make a case against someone.
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I agree, so what purpose does the law serve then?
So there should be no law that makes discrimination illegal just because it might be something that is hard to prove? If anything, the fact that it is difficult to prove is more reason to make sure there are laws that can help the victims.
I think it is ironic that it takes a homosexual to teach evangelicals how to BE a Christian, not "talk" Christian.
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Gay evangelical Christian Matt Stolhandske is coming to the aid of Christian bakers punished for refusing service to a lesbian couple.
Aaron and Melissa Klein of Oregon were fined $150,000 for refusing to bake a cake for a lesbian wedding, and Stolhandske is spearheading a fundraising effort for them.
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In January 2014, the Kleins were found guilty of unlawful discrimination based on sexual orientation, and revealed last month that they were subject to a six-figure fine. Upon learning of the couple's dire situation, Stolhandske, an Evangelicals for Marriage Equality board member, stepped in to help.
"The Kleins say the $150,000 fee will bankrupt her family," he wrote in a Washington Post op-ed. "I'm raising money to help offset that cost. I'll send whatever we raise along to the Klein family with a message of love and peace. I don't want them to suffer."
Stolhandske created a page on crowdfunding site Rally.org to raise funds for the couple. Over $1,500 has been raised toward the $150,000 goal. Although Stolhandske maintains that he doesn't approve of the Kleins' actions, he wants to shift the "national cultural conversation from one of intolerance towards one of compassion and love."
The further irony is that gays and lesbians are attacking Matt Stolhandske for starting this fund (now over $3,000). The fund has received small donations from only 334 donors as of December 4, 2014.
But where are the Christians who want to stand up for this couple whose bakery is closed? In the closet?
So there should be no law that makes discrimination illegal just because it might be something that is hard to prove? If anything, the fact that it is difficult to prove is more reason to make sure there are laws that can help the victims.
Is that what I said? Or did I repeatedly say the law should be written clearer?
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Homosexual teaches bakers how to be Christian
