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Old 12-30-2014, 09:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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It was worth the journey. You're at a good place.
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Hope you are not really mad, Pleroo. You have an outstanding clarity of mind. It was the indoctrination that prevented its use concerning God belief.
Of course I'm not mad . Forgot the face.
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Old 12-31-2014, 05:37 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Hope you are not really mad, Pleroo. You have an outstanding clarity of mind. It was the indoctrination that prevented its use concerning God belief.
Societal forces and traditions are very powerful, Arq. I only rejected it openly at age 13 . . . the beginning of my teenage rebellion years.
I don't want to hi -jack this int a 'How I...' thread, but being raised in a 'census - Christian' household, I was exposed to a fair bit of religion 'The Bible in pictures'. Cardboard Nativity scenes at Christmas, the odd Church attendance at festival times. And the usual enforced school religion -study, especially the pre -10 church school.

None of that had the slightest effect of selling me religion. It seemed no more than a fairy tale.

I didn't do teenage rebellion. In fact it was only in my teenage years, thanks to BCM Ambassador on radio Luxembourg, the only Pop music station in those days (it seems incredible now, but there was NO rock or pop on the radio), with the ranting about 'The good news about the world tomorrow'. Which seemed to involve global plagues and bulldozers filling pits with corpses. (I wonder what the BAD news was) that I seriously considered the religious claims.

I sent for their stuff. I remember the prophecy of Tyre. 'The unbelievers can disprove us by rebuilding Tyre!' In fact I now know it was rebuilt (1). But I couldn't argue with the claim at the time, but it didn't seem a good enough reason to believe what they were saying.

Well, I awaited the date of disaster and it didn't happen. That was the second Doomsday prediction (one when I was 12) and they have popped up regularly and never do happen. Thereafter the frauds stopped peddling their pamphlets and put their efforts into 'Plain Truth' magazine.

There was just nothing in either church or fundy polemic that looked to be other than delusion. I may say I had looked into the occult and palmistry -Tarot and the like and religion seemed to have the same basis - nothing apart from self -delusion - if not profitable deluding of others.

(1) but, Eusebius knows, that doesn't disprove the prophecy - what they built on Tyre was a different city.
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