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You didn't ask me but I think that some ex-Christians hate the idea of God as it is presented by some Christians, because it is divisive and destructive. I do. If people in the here and now were still pushing some of the other ancient gods, I might hate that too.
I think what's closer to the mark is many non-believers hate what happens to people who swallow fundamentalist tripe. Belief in, and adoration of, a genocidal god turns normal, ethical people into robotic apologists for bigotry and hatred.
Those people I find hateful. And yeah, if their god was real, I'd hate it too.
If he was stoned, would we genuflect at a pile of rocks, and call them sacred?
Q: Why was Jesus crucified instead of being stoned to death?
A: Because it's easier to get a churchful of people to do this (makes familiar "crossing oneself" gesture), than to get them to do THIS (makes full windup, kick, and pitch motion).
Rim shot! Crash!
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People can be so stupid and inconsiderate over a memorial, I don't care if it is over a decade later or not. It definitely didn't appear to be an issue in 2004.
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I think what's closer to the mark is many non-believers hate what happens to people who swallow fundamentalist tripe. Belief in, and adoration of, a genocidal god turns normal, ethical people into robotic apologists for bigotry and hatred.
Those people I find hateful. And yeah, if their god was real, I'd hate it too.
Can you give one recent example of a fundamentalist demanding a new law that defines society or infringes on your freedoms? And don't use gay marriage because that deals with changing already established laws defining marriage.
Otherwise, your remarks come off as bigoted hyperbole.
More foot-stomping demands. "And don't use...!"
Fundamentalists and tantrum-throwing 3-year-old's have a lot in common.
How many crosses and memorials do you have on your lawn, or in your public space? Do you only want your religion in the public square? Why is that?
None right now, they'd be covered in the snow. And please don't say that with atheists/progressives it is about allowing other religions equal time in the public square. With atheists/progressives it is about playing religions against each other if anything.
Of course because you NEVER have crosses on your lawn. If you did they would still be there snow, or no snow.
Is your faith fair weather? You only express it when it is not snowing?
I have a lawn full of flamingos. They are there, rain or shine, 365 days a year. In fact, they are just as beautiful surrounded by snow.
You do not display your faith on your own lawn, but you insist on covering our shared space with it.
I do not insist our shared space have flamingos. Why are you insisting it have crosses? I have no desire to pit you for or against the flamingo. I would respect the fact you do not wish them in our shared public space.
Separation of church and state to the extent people of your side have distorted it does not exist in the Constitution. The school is not creating a law that establishes the Christian religion. If you find the mere sight of a cross or angel to be offensive, that's YOUR problem.
And yet the Founders wrote just that on the subject. So chances are that was their intent behind the law .
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Can you give one recent example of a fundamentalist demanding a new law that defines society or infringes on your freedoms? And don't use gay marriage because that deals with changing already established laws defining marriage.
Otherwise, your remarks come off as bigoted hyperbole.
The purpose of the Supreme Court should be to protect all rights. Which means not taking away the rights and freedom of the majority to satisfy the lone atheist who hates God.
Can we get another cookie here for jeffbase?
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