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Of course not. It's utterly ridiculous. These theories of yours are nothing more than semi-coherent babbling. You started out with an assumption based upon ignorant preconceptions, and are casting about for arguments to support those assumptions. And none of them make any sense at all.
Of course not. It's utterly ridiculous. These theories of yours are nothing more than semi-coherent babbling. You started out with an assumption based upon ignorant preconceptions, and are casting about for arguments to support those assumptions. And none of them make any sense at all.
So u explain it to me what is "hope" in the dictionary of an Atheist ?
There is "hope" for believers who were victims but couldn't get justice in this life. And there is hope that perfect justice will be rendered.
Whether this "hope" of believers is true or not, is a matter of faith. No one can prove it right or wrong. It's just faith BUT, there is "hope".
And not to offend anyone but, Atheists are hopeless. Matter of fact, there shouldn't be any concept of "hope" for an Atheist. Is this correct?
There are all sorts of ways we can delude ourselves. Hope or faith in something based upon poor evidence, is simply false hope and blind faith. I don't see either of those as being necessary nor helpful to rationalize my existence, or lack of existence at some point.
But this particular delusion stems from the fear of death. Telling ourselves that we will always exist seems to be a way to rationalize away an irrational fear of non-existence. But this raises questions of course...what if I exist along with "bad" people? So we rationalize that bad people go somewhere else, so as not to disturb the entire point of perpetual existence in some promised land.
At the end of the day, hope and faith can be attributed to many things. But one first needs to question why perpetual existence is the "default" preference. Because there is no rational need to "hope" for perpetual existence, nor the punishment of "bad" people as a byproduct.
There is "hope" for believers who were victims but couldn't get justice in this life. And there is hope that perfect justice will be rendered.
Whether this "hope" of believers is true or not, is a matter of faith. No one can prove it right or wrong. It's just faith BUT, there is "hope".
And not to offend anyone but, Atheists are hopeless. Matter of fact, there shouldn't be any concept of "hope" for an Atheist. Is this correct?
The wording is a bit loaded, but in a sense you are correct. I have no expectation of justice after I die, and have to make peace with the reality of injustice without postulating some cosmic reckoning. But of course, you have no "hope" that the flying spaghetti monster will give you beer and strippers after you die, so you too are "hopeless"
In fact, I am not "hopeless" in the sense of despairing, resigned, or pessimistic because I do not rely on a concept of cosmic justice for which there is absolutely no evidence to give my life meaning, purpose, or a sense of optimism.
It would be equally dirty pool to point out that belief without any supporting evidence, or in contradiction to all observable evidence is commonly known as "delusion". And not to offend anyone but, theists are delusional. Is this correct? It is as true as the idea that atheists are hopeless, there is a core piece of information that is unarguably true, but it is then wrapped in questionable rhetoric in an attempt to discredit or denigrate the people on the other side of the argument...
There is "hope" for believers who were victims but couldn't get justice in this life. And there is hope that perfect justice will be rendered.
Whether this "hope" of believers is true or not, is a matter of faith. No one can prove it right or wrong. It's just faith BUT, there is "hope".
And not to offend anyone but, Atheists are hopeless. Matter of fact, there shouldn't be any concept of "hope" for an Atheist. Is this correct?
This is a very odd way of putting things, almost as if you are searching for derogatory things to say about atheists. You frame hope in a very narrow way, and imply that unlikely hope is somehow beneficial.
I do agree with you to a point. Yes, believers can hope for perfect justice based upon the existence of god, however, as you note we can neither prove nor disprove something that is, by definition, outside of the natural realm. Given that we have zero evidence for a god, and zero evidence for the characteristics of such a god, is it reasonable to have hope for something for which we have no evidence?
Doesn't the atheist have a more realistic view of the world?
As for hope within the world, I can hope that criminals are caught, I can hope that my next meal will be amazing, I can hope that I have enough hot water for a shower, and I can hope that Kate Upton shows up naked and horny at my front door.
Some of these things are more likely than others of course. I can influence some, but not others. Does this make me hopeless?
Do you have any response to my previous post? What are your thoughts on justice from a Christian perspective when evil people make deathbed conversions?
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